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Ellis
Joined: 15 Jun 2004 Posts: 19 Location: Los Angeles, California
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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 11:54 pm Post subject: THE OFTTIMES STEEP WAGES OF TRUST IN THE EFL WORLD |
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I've been reading, with great interest, the numerous complaints printed in the teachers forum pages of the various online job services, and I am hardly amazed at the number of suckers there are among us. Even I -- certainly no spring chicken, and having been around the proverbial block more than a few times -- fell for that dream job defecation just last summer! Only, I'll make a small wager that MY loss went a bit further than that of the average dupe: (A) round-trip fares for two (USA-China), local taxi fares due to the remoteness of the school's locale, food, clothing, etc. ... all amounting to roughly $3,000;
(B) loss of a comfortable ESL position... loss of the apartment where we had resided for 9 years ... loss of my car, TV, and PC, etc., etc. And, what's more, we decided to abandon our new dream locale after only 9 DAYS following our arrival! Alas, all of that money and our prized possessions had gone to the bloody dogs ... all for that bloody dream job in faraway China!
Of course, since last summer, I've been kicking myself in my oversized derri�r ... so much so that my big toe is practically worn to the stump! But, when I'm more composed (which isn't all that often), I continue my ongoing investigation into WHY I, a seasoned veteran of the international ESL scene, could ever have been taken in by such promises of professional satisfaction. Is it my optimistic outlook on life? ... my high regard for and trust in my fellow man? ... my recognized penchant for adventure? ... or my ego which, unfortunately, we all have to support from time to time? Of course, such deeply objective inquiries, although very briefly considered, are hardly seriously entertained once the contract has been signed and the plane tickets are red hot and just begging to be used! No, at this time, negativism is hardly within the realm of reality. That dream job is awaiting us. We dream of it at night. We talk about it incessantly during the waking hours. We can even taste it! My God! How reason abandons us ... that is, until we are hit squarely in the head with a huge baseball bat! By then, it's usually too late to prevent at least a monetary loss, something which is especially tragic for ESL teachers, who are dangerously close to the bottom of the world's educational pay scales. Happily, not every ESL instructor working abroad will suffer the sorry circumstances I have described. Fortunately, the majority of us are fairing well, and enjoy acceptable relations with veracious and caring employers. It's just those nefarious hucksters who must gradually be weeded out of the system. Is it also that, in the face of today's circumstances, we cannot afford to place faith in ANYBODY's word -- that is, unless we have first conducted a thorough investigation of an employer's history, reputation, and objectives before ever signing away the next one or two years of our lives? In the final analysis, my thinking favors the creation of up-and-up, independent international investigatory committees, sponsored by both local governments and public and private ESL learning centers, to report and resolve any infractions of ethical business and/or educational practices. If, indeed, public and private ESL schools in the USA can be subjected to the constant upkeep of certain national standards of operation, why can't an INTERNATIONAL standard -- especially in developing countries -- be likewise established? I'm talking about a unified effort in each foreign country in which teachers from the west are regularly employed. After all, the students who come to the west to study are protected by numerous laws and professional codes of conduct. WHY can't this principal equally apply those of us who travel eastward to contribute to the betterment of English language learning?
Any ideas, folks? Thanks for your attention. |
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Ben Round de Bloc
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 1946
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 1:39 am Post subject: Re: THE OFTTIMES STEEP WAGES OF TRUST IN THE EFL WORLD |
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Ellis wrote: |
In the final analysis, my thinking favors the creation of up-and-up, independent international investigatory committees, sponsored by both local governments and public and private ESL learning centers, to report and resolve any infractions of ethical business and/or educational practices. If, indeed, public and private ESL schools in the USA can be subjected to the constant upkeep of certain national standards of operation, why can't an INTERNATIONAL standard -- especially in developing countries -- be likewise established?
Any ideas, folks? Thanks for your attention. |
My only teaching-abroad experience has been limited to Mexico, so I don't know how it is for EFL teachers in the majority of developing countries throughout the world. Just speaking from my own personal experiences, I'd say that, even though I like your idea very much, one problem I see with your proposal is that what constitutes ethical business and/or educational practices isn't universal. Different countries/cultures don't seem to have the same definition of ethical. Perhaps better said, all countries don't put the same amount of emphasis on the importance of what's considered ethical, nor do they all adhere to the same standards. Just one example of many: Is it ethical to expect teachers to work without contracts? Most people in the USA would say it's not, while most people in Mexico would consider it standard practice to work without an official contract. |
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kev7161
Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Posts: 5880 Location: Suzhou, China
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 5:44 am Post subject: |
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I think it would be quite easy:
1) Each and every job around the world should have a written, government-approved contract - - - signed, sealed, stamped, and delivered. If a school and/or country doesn't offer contracts, then a reasonable sane person should never, ever accept a job there.
2) It is the burden of the foreign teacher to pore over their contract and ask questions before signing and accepting of the job. DON'T BE NAIVE and think that if someone says, "a computer and internet in your room? DON'T WORRY we'll take care of it!" - - - but if it is not in the contract in writing and you don't get that computer w/internet, then you shouldn't be allowed to complain about it (although I would and have). If you want certain considerations in your contract, then make sure they are there, written down. Contracts may not always be worth much, but ORAL contracts are even more worthless.
3) This so-called "international" watch dog committee should then be able to call foreign schools to the floor should they not honor all or portions of a contract. Also, schools should also have to have their websites looked over. When they say they are IN a certain town, then they should actually be IN that town, not 30 or 40 kms away! If they are that far away, it should be mandatory that they say so.
I remember last year before I came to China. I was trying to convince everyone who was tut-tutting over me on how this was going to be a wonderful, life-changing experience. I HAVE decided to stay for a second year for a variety of reasons, but I'm worried as to what I will say to my friends in August when I come home for a visit. Do I lie to them and tell them everything is peaches and cream? Or do I let them know the suck-y things about my new world (mixed with some of the good things, of course - - it's not ALL bad!)? |
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Bindair Dundat
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 1123
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 7:41 am Post subject: Re: THE OFTTIMES STEEP WAGES OF TRUST IN THE EFL WORLD |
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Sorry about your loss, but it sounds as though you suckered yourself. You know there is no "dream job", and you know better than to bet all your chips on one number.
Ellis wrote: |
...WHY I, a seasoned veteran of the international ESL scene, could ever have been taken in by such promises of professional satisfaction. |
A lapse of judgement, and you know it. Don't sugar-coat or mystify it. You effed up. True, somebody lied to you and took advantage of you, and that was their shortcoming, but it's YOUR job to watch out for yourself. YOU KNEW BETTER, and you ignored what you knew.
Ellis wrote: |
Is it also that, in the face of today's circumstances, we cannot afford to place faith in ANYBODY's word... |
YES. ABSOLUTELY.
Ellis wrote: |
-- that is, unless we have first conducted a thorough investigation of an employer's history, reputation, and objectives before ever signing away the next one or two years of our lives? |
If you've done all that, then you're NOT placing faith in anybody's word. You're placing faith in their character, which you have divined for yourself.
Ellis wrote: |
Any ideas, folks? |
1) Don't trust what people say, especially if it sounds too good to be true. Trust human nature instead. Recognize that people distort, simplify, and exaggerate in order to sell you on their agenda. Think in terms of probability, not possibility.
2) Hedge your bets. Keep creating options. Don't let yourself get stuck with no emergency exits.
3) Share what you know: WHO are these bad guys? Where are they? What's their address and phone number? If you post such information on the web, other people will be forewarned.
4) Assume that things are going to be worse than they are depicted, and make your decision on the basis of that assumption. This leaves you a larger margin for error.
BD |
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Ben Round de Bloc
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 1946
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 10:52 am Post subject: |
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kev7161 wrote: |
I think it would be quite easy:
1) Each and every job around the world should have a written, government-approved contract - - - signed, sealed, stamped, and delivered. If a school and/or country doesn't offer contracts, then a reasonable sane person should never, ever accept a job there. |
I think you're quite naive. You simply can't change the world like that. Many countries/cultures do not value contracts in the same way that others do. Government-approved contracts? Whose government? Now you plan to change the way governments do things in other countries besides? That should go over "really big" with said governments. EFL teachers, sane or not, have been going to foreign countries to teach without having contracts for years. If no-contract countries are willing to take foreign teachers legally, do you really think such a contract mandate would keep teachers from going to those countries?
kev7161 wrote: |
I'm worried as to what I will say to my friends in August when I come home for a visit. Do I lie to them and tell them everything is peaches and cream? Or do I let them know the suck-y things about my new world (mixed with some of the good things, of course - - it's not ALL bad!)? |
I'm guessing this is your first visit back home since you began teaching abroad. I suspect that your friends really won't care all that much one way or the other about your experiences abroad, at least not to the degree that you're expecting them to. Anyway, I believe that's been the experience of most EFLers when they've gone back home to visit. |
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kev7161
Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Posts: 5880 Location: Suzhou, China
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, I think it is naive to think that a school ANYWHERE in the world (even my good ol' USA) would completely honor oral agreements. I'm sure there are honest schools scattered across the globe but, quite frankly, I'd never take that risk. Maybe I'm naive, but I hope I'm not too gullible.
And, yes, I've been home since I came here (arrived in China last July, went home in January). Several people I know were vastly interested in my life (or at least pretended so): wanted to see pictures, some teacher friends insisted I come to their classrooms and regale their students with my escapades, oohed and ahhed over the gifts I brought. At that time, I was still pretty content here . . . what six months can do to a person! |
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Ben Round de Bloc
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 1946
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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kev7161 wrote: |
Actually, I think it is naive to think that a school ANYWHERE in the world (even my good ol' USA) would completely honor oral agreements. |
It's sort of a trade-off, I think. If a person wants to work in a particular country bad enough, even though that country has a very lax view about contracts, then it's worth taking the risk.
kev7161 wrote: |
And, yes, I've been home since I came here (arrived in China last July, went home in January). Several people I know were vastly interested in my life (or at least pretended so): wanted to see pictures, some teacher friends insisted I come to their classrooms and regale their students with my escapades, oohed and ahhed over the gifts I brought. At that time, I was still pretty content here . . . what six months can do to a person! |
Two visits back home in only a little over a year's time abroad! Pay attention to see if those same people back home remain as interested during your subsequent visits . . . or if you remain all that interested in what they've been doing while you've been away, for that matter.
Your next 6 months could be better or worse, depending a lot on which phase of culture shock/adjustment you're in and how you deal with it. My guess is that it'll be better. You say it's been good and bad so far, but I bet that you'll never regret having had the experience. |
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Bindair Dundat
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 1123
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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Ben Round de Bloc wrote: |
kev7161 wrote: |
I think it would be quite easy:
1) Each and every job around the world should have a written, government-approved contract - - - signed, sealed, stamped, and delivered. If a school and/or country doesn't offer contracts, then a reasonable sane person should never, ever accept a job there. |
I think you're quite naive. You simply can't change the world like that. Many countries/cultures do not value contracts in the same way that others do. Government-approved contracts? Whose government? Now you plan to change the way governments do things in other countries besides? That should go over "really big" with said governments. |
Naive? Heh -- try to imagine what it would cost to get thousands of individual legislators all around the world to agree that something like this is even important enough to think about.
BD |
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