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naturegirl321
Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 1:40 pm Post subject: Romanian citizenship |
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My mother was born in Romania, then escaped to the USA when she was 2 because her father was held prisioner since he helped some high officals escape. She became naturalized at age 10 and her father has been forgive and Romania is no longer Communist.
My question is this, the USa doesn't recognise dual citizenship, but Romania does.
My friedns' mother is peruvian and became american. THE USA doesnt' recognise her Peruvian cit, but Peru does.
Is this the same for Romania? Can I get citizenship? |
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Nate
Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Posts: 61 Location: Korea
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 1:16 am Post subject: |
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Great question! Sorry I can't help you... I have a great-grandfather and great-grandmother that were born in Romania. I bet you have alot better chance of getting that citizenship than I have, but I am curious for myself as well!
Anyways, consider this a long-winded bump. |
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CairoMig
Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 35
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2004 12:41 pm Post subject: Romanian citizenship |
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If you want to know if you can get Romanian citizenship, the best method is to phone your nearest embassy or consulate and asking them! |
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naturegirl321
Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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You would think that that would be easy. I contacted the one here in Lima and they told me that I should call back after Thanksgiving. And the Chicago one won't return my emails.
However, my mom contacted them. Good news is that she is still Romanian. All she needs to do is bring her translated Marriage cert, passport and birth cert to the Embassy. Takes three months for verification, then she can register her kids and then I can apply for a Romanian passport! |
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CairoMig
Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 35
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 2:00 pm Post subject: Romania....easy? Never! |
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Well once you get the passport all I can say is "Bine ati venit la Romania!"
Romania is far from an easy place to live, unless you have just spent the last 10 years in the Sudan or something, where it probably seems quite civilized
I gave up sending my family birthday cards when I was there as I used to spend around 20-40 minutes queueing for a stamp. I also remember Nic supermarket in Pta Amezei (which I was told was very expensive and only for snobs and/or foreigners) which never seemed to get the idea of ordering enough stock. At least it made going for the weekly shop a bit of an adventure as you never knew what you were going to find there! |
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naturegirl321
Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 2:08 pm Post subject: Re: Romania....easy? Never! |
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CairoMig wrote: |
Well once you get the passport all I can say is "Bine ati venit la Romania!"
Romania is far from an easy place to live, unless you have just spent the last 10 years in the Sudan or something, where it probably seems quite civilized
I gave up sending my family birthday cards when I was there as I used to spend around 20-40 minutes queueing for a stamp. I also remember Nic supermarket in Pta Amezei (which I was told was very expensive and only for snobs and/or foreigners) which never seemed to get the idea of ordering enough stock. At least it made going for the weekly shop a bit of an adventure as you never knew what you were going to find there! |
Sounds a bit like CHina where you queue to pay your bills and then find out that no one there knows how to accept money for an electricity bill, don't know who does and don't know where you can pay I don't want to live somewhere easy. I live in Peru now, not easy, but not difficult. Romania's part of my heritage, I would like to learn more about it. And If I gety they chance I would jump at it.
Besides, when they join the EU, doors will open up to me, or at least when I have kids, my kids.
Do you speak romanian? |
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CairoMig
Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 35
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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Ba da!
Cand am ajuns la Bucuresti, am facut 72 ore de lectia de limba romana...dar in Bucuresti nu este necesar sa vorbeasca limba romana pentru ca foarte multe persoane vorbesc englezeste. Cred ca cand am fost acolo, am vorbit romaneste numai la magazin
You see...not such a hard language... when (when?!) Romania joins the EU, expect to wait another 7 years or so before Romanians are allowed to enter the EU to work without permits. This is exactly what happened to Portugal and Spain (a 6 year wait) and now with the new EU countries (only Maltese and Cypriots are currently allowed complete freedom to work in other EU countries). |
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naturegirl321
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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CairoMig wrote: |
You see...not such a hard language... when (when?!) Romania joins the EU, expect to wait another 7 years or so before Romanians are allowed to enter the EU to work without permits. This is exactly what happened to Portugal and Spain (a 6 year wait) and now with the new EU countries (only Maltese and Cypriots are currently allowed complete freedom to work in other EU countries). |
So three years plus seven years isn't much time. I'm young, besides at least my kids will have the chance. |
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Ovid
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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Hi everyone. naturegirl, your interest in Romania and the info you provide are much appreciated.
I just wanted to comment on one thing you said, that the US doesn't recognize dual citizenship. This is not quite correct, but is something that a lot of people believe. There are several ways of becoming a dual citizen; you or your parents or grandparents were born in the country, you marry someone from the country, or you go through the legal naturalization process. The US only requires renunciation of your prior citizenship if you go through the natuaralzation process to become a citizen of the US. This means that you are never required to ever give up US citizenship (by US laws) by becoming a citizen of another country.
Interesting too (and maybe helpful to others) is the fact that the US doesn't require any formal renunciation of citizenship in the country you are from. Meaning the renunciation is simply your oath given at the time of your naturalization. Since citizenship laws are written without consideration of other countries usually, this most likely means you can still keep dual citizenship since the US doesn't enforce it at all and in the eyes of your mother country, you haven't done anything and are still a citizen.
A great site for info on dual citizenship in the US is http://www.richw.org/dualcit/ |
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naturegirl321
Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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No, I meant that the USA didn't recognise dual cit until the 1990s. Thanks for the link though. |
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naturegirl321
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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Ovid wrote: |
The US only requires renunciation of your prior citizenship if you go through the natuaralzation process to become a citizen of the US. This means that you are never required to ever give up US citizenship (by US laws) by becoming a citizen of another country.
Interesting too (and maybe helpful to others) is the fact that the US doesn't require any formal renunciation of citizenship in the country you are from. Meaning the renunciation is simply your oath given at the time of your naturalization. Since citizenship laws are written without consideration of other countries usually, this most likely means you can still keep dual citizenship since the US doesn't enforce it at all and in the eyes of your mother country, you haven't done anything and are still a citizen.
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According to RO law, since my mom was born there, she can never renounce Romania citizenship. I don't really get it, the USa and RO laws are different. |
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CairoMig
Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 35
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 2:57 pm Post subject: Dual nationality |
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The whole reason why dual nationality exists is because nationality is not governed by international law. This means that you can have two nationalities - one country recognising both, the other country only recognising its own.
You do have to enter and leave the country that only accepts 1 nationality with their passport, and you when you're in the country of 1 of your nationalities, you can't use the diplomatic services of the other. |
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