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cecex144
Joined: 09 Aug 2004 Posts: 5
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 8:45 pm Post subject: Questions about your experience |
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Hi!
I'm a freelance writer in USA seeking answers to some questions about the TEFL job market. I am writing a chapter on current trends and need some reliable info concerning the job market in Asia, Europe, Australia and USA.
If you are interested, please e-mail me at [email protected]. Thanks for your time. This info will be published in a workbook for people who are just entering the TEFL or TESOL world.
Also I am seeking a sample resume to use in the book. I do not have to use your name--just your resume.
Thanks much
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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Are you going to pay for this information?
Are you going to acknowledge contributors?
Your chapter sounds fairly thin ("current trends" covers quite a large ground, as does the locations you propose). What is a "workbook"? |
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cecex144
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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No pay. I'm just trying to corroborate information that I've researched in order to see if it rings true in the real world. For example, is it really true that TEFL teachers can actrually make enough to save money in by teaching in Hong Kong? How necessary is the EU passport to secure employment in western Europe? Is it possible to teach in Spain or France without it and under what conditions?
What's the best way to research job opportunities--what has worked for you?
Again, this isn't for general dissemination--just for people getting into the field.
By a workbook, I mean a book that is used in conjunction with a course of study.
Thanks for the inquiry |
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Varvian
Joined: 17 Jul 2004 Posts: 29 Location: New York, USA
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 1:32 am Post subject: |
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http://www.frenchculture.org/education/support/assistant/
This is a website for Americans who would like to spend a school year being an English teaching assistant in a French public school. You recieve a stipend and live about as comfortable as a college student. I also think there is an age range they want. You'd have to check out the site for the specifics. I know a girl who did this program and she had a good time.
I'm not sure about Hong Kong, but you should definitely ask the Korean and Japanese board about pay and savings. The Western Europe question should be posed to the Europe board. |
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cecex144
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 1:51 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the info and the suggestions |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 5:11 am Post subject: |
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Well, I don't know about others, but I think you are asking far too much to be covered by a single chapter in some book. If you have more specific questions that those few, then ask them, because you just can't do decent "research" with what you have provided so far.
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What's the best way to research job opportunities--what has worked for you? |
Good grief! What kind of job opportunities? People teach in kindergarten, university, conversation school, cram school, high school (public and private), etc. To snip a few random comments from a discussion forum like this is just not representative of what you need, and (no offense) what you print from this is just not going to be reliable. I have seen enough inaccurate and insufficient material posted about Japan (where I live) posted on sites from large agencies whose goal is to give extensive info specifically on teaching alone!
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this isn't for general dissemination--just for people getting into the field. |
But you are trying to cover people getting into the field all over the world!!
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in Asia, Europe, Australia and USA. |
so I wouldn't just dismiss the "field" so lightly. If you want to do research right, do it right and be thorough.
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By a workbook, I mean a book that is used in conjunction with a course of study. |
Can you explain this a bit more? Sounds like more of a pamphlet than a book to me.
If you want a contributor who can be meticulous, thorough, and accurate, I will be happy to help, but you will have to reward me somehow. What you are undertaking (or what you have described, anyway), is huge. |
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Ludwig

Joined: 26 Apr 2004 Posts: 1096 Location: 22� 20' N, 114� 11' E
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 5:43 am Post subject: |
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First, let me just thank you for the nice giggle your post engendered; everyone I have showed it to has at least chuckled.
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For example, is it really true that TEFL teachers can actrually [sic] make enough to save money in [sic] by teaching in Hong Kong? |
No, it is not true. We all run at a loss; that is why it is so easy to secure employment here within the field of the teaching of the English as a second or other language.
"People who are just entering the TEFL or TESOL world" do not fare too overly well when applying for professional teaching posts in Hong Kong!
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How necessary is the EU passport to secure employment in western Europe? |
If by "necessary" you mean "able to proceed legally through customs" then it is of the utmost importance, as any cusory glance at the respective state websites evinces.
How many people do you envisige responding to your vague spam, exactly?
By the way, I love the request for the sample resume! |
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cecex144
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the replies. For specific questions, and if you are interested in participating, please e-mail me.
Thanks for your help |
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Ki
Joined: 23 Jul 2004 Posts: 475
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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It is certainly more difficult for non-EU passport holders to legally work in Western Europe (and now parts of Eastern Europe) but not impossible. Many European countries have bilateral agreements with other countries making working holiday visas available for people under thirty, with a lot of restrictions. Australia has a dozen or so of these agreements including UK, Germany, Sweden, Finland, Norway, Ireland, Italy, Holland, Malta, Hong Kong, Japan. Okay, I know the last two aren't in Europe. New Zealand has even more and I think South Africa has a lot of these agreements with whoever they could.
Even with these agreements it is still more difficult than EU passport holders to work and without them even more difficult. I fear it will only get worse for us non-Europeans in the future. A lot of employers don't want to hire non-Europeans because of all of the extra paperwork. It depends on the country. I heard it was almost impossible to teach in Holland.
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Boy Wonder

Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 453 Location: Clacton on sea
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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experience......well i once used to wash dishes in a mental hospital.
Also swept carparks for a living.....is that the sort of experience you're looking for? |
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cecex144
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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thanks Ki. |
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