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Foreign Police nabbed me at Kindergarten

 
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taiwazza



Joined: 11 Sep 2004
Posts: 4

PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 11:41 am    Post subject: Foreign Police nabbed me at Kindergarten Reply with quote

Hi All,

Recently got nabbed at Kindergarten by the foreign police, taken to police station and questioned as to why I was there. My manager informed me I was 'watching a class' so that is what my statement to the police said. My registered bushiban is not at the same place as the kindergarten I was teaching...sorry watching a class when I was apprehended.

Does anyone have any idea what will happen from here? I work for a major company and they say all will be OK but I'm not feeling great about the whole situation. Can I get deported? I hope not. Any advice would be appreciated,

Thanks in advance Shocked
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colin



Joined: 14 Apr 2003
Posts: 45
Location: You mean right now?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's ok Aristole,I got this one.

Depends,maybe your boss will work things out and greese a few palms.Chances are that you be sent packing your bags.Prepare for the worst.
Sorry to hear of your misfortune.Good luck with that.
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taiwazza



Joined: 11 Sep 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colin,

Thanks for the reply. Didn't like it though! Can I ask how you know that I could be in trouble? Do you have experience with someone who has been in a similar position?

Just to clarify exactly what happened. I was taken to the Foreign Police office, the manager of my Kindergarten came with me and another foreign teacher. My head office sent a representative to the police station and she nodded, shook her head etc when the cop asked me the questions. I then signed my statement after having it translated by my manager and Head Office Representative.

As I said before I have been told not to worry and that money/fines that need to be paid will be paid to the right people. However in saying that I have been teaching here for over 3 years and this is the first time I've run into this sort of trouble.

Any further advice would be greatly appreciated.
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markholmes



Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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Location: Wengehua

PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Were you one of the teachers working for Kojen in Shilin?

Mr Ho knows every man and his dog. I don't think you'll be deported, but kepp a bag packed anyway.

Keep us posted.
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TaoyuanSteve



Joined: 05 Feb 2003
Posts: 1028
Location: Taoyuan

PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you heard of www.forumosa.com ? They have forums on legal matters and a much larger and diverse group of people, from many walks of life, contributing. I think you might be able to get more answers as to what will happen and where you go from here.
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Aristotle



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Location: Taiwan

PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make a visa run.
New passport, new visa before they tag your old one.
Good luck,
A.
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Fortigurn



Joined: 29 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

markholmes wrote:
Were you one of the teachers working for Kojen in Shilin?


I work for Kojen, at Shilin (but not with the kindergarten - I teach senior high and adults).

It always astonishes me how institutes such as Hess and Kojen can run schools which are supposed to be totally illegal. How can this be possible?
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wombat



Joined: 18 Jun 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hear about your problem, but to be honest I really don�t think you need be overly worried about things.

From my understanding, you have an ARC with the company that you were caught working for, but you were caught working in the kindergarten department of that company. To my knowledge no one has ever been deported for working in a kindergarten, provided that they had an ARC to teach English here in Taiwan. I invite anyone who can provide evidence otherwise to do so, but ask that such replies be kept to first hand accounts only.

By all accounts, the worst is already over. The prospect of being interviewed by the police is a rather daunting one, and I agree with Fortigrun that it is unfortunate that some employers place unsuspecting workers in this position. What seems to happen generally is that the foreigner gets a good dressing down, you are required to sign a statement, receive a warning, and then are free to go. The school will no doubt pay a fine for employing you, but that is merely part of running a preschool English program here in Taiwan.

There doesn�t seem to be any real effort behind such raids by the police. They are most likely undertaken out of a need to satisfy a complaint that was received by the police, and most likely made by a competitor. Don�t worry too much. While I cannot promise that the above is what will happen, from all of the accounts available from previous foreigners in your situation, this is exactly what happens.

colin wrote:
Depends,maybe your boss will work things out and greese a few palms.Chances are that you be sent packing your bags.Prepare for the worst.


Colin, what do you base these claims upon? I don�t believe that what you have stated has any basis, but feel free to correct me if I am wrong on this.

Whatever you do, make sure that you ignore the following advice:

Aristotle wrote:
Make a visa run. New passport, new visa before they tag your old one.


This advice is outdated. Previously records were only kept of the passport numbers of foreigners. This meant that each time you got a new passport, and hence a new passport number, you became new to the system.

Now the information kept on file for crosschecking includes your passport number, name, and date of birth. Two or more matches here and the authorities will know who you are and you will have wasted money getting a new passport � unless of course you are willing to change your name or date of birth.

Most importantly of all, please remember to keep us all informed of what actually happens to you. This is very valuable information and could serve to help others in the future.

Good luck
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