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Snoopy



Joined: 13 Jul 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 2:25 pm    Post subject: Falsification Reply with quote

Has anyone found a possible way of lying about one�s age on a job application? I could always introduce some typographical errors into my CV, but if anyone wanted to see original certificates I would be rumbled. I can�t explain how I graduated from university at the age of three. Any ruses people have used successfully?
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moonraven



Joined: 24 Mar 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not just put N/A--which the reader can interpret as either Not Applicable or No Age....?
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Lanza-Armonia



Joined: 04 Jan 2004
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Location: London, UK. Soon to be in Hamburg, Germany

PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One idea...

...Get a real degree.....

(I'm one to talk huh?)

LA
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Bindair Dundat



Joined: 04 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 2:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Falsification Reply with quote

Snoopy wrote:
Has anyone found a possible way of lying about one�s age on a job application?


Heh. Figure: Sooner or later they're going to get a look at your passport.

BD
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moonraven



Joined: 24 Mar 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right, illiterate one.

If there is sufficient space, why not NOYDB...?

I haven't filled out an application in years....
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mjed9



Joined: 25 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This has degenerated quite quickly!
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lagerlout2006



Joined: 17 Sep 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A 3 looks a lot like an 8 if that helps. Wink

I haven't lied about my age --not yet anyway--but I have been known to fudge the dates on previous employment. Everyone does this -it's called spindoctoring....Even professionals do this. (Not that we aren't professionals here,) Suggest you were "in management" that sort of thing. Make a lot of references to IT skills and "professional development." I also like to parachute in words like pscyhology and workforce.

As for age though I don't know. If they hire you they will find out the truth. But lying might get your foot in the door. Perhaps doctor a photocopy of your passport???

Disclaimer: The words lagerlout2006 does not appear on my CV.
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lagerlout2006



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last I heard Hong Kong is on Beijing time (as they should be) so I think at 1 a.m. I can be forgiven for spelling psychology wrong.!!!
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ls650



Joined: 10 May 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lagerlout2006 wrote:
Everyone does this -it's called spindoctoring....


Everyone?
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moonraven



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's one of the ten most common techniques of propaganda to say: everybody does it (with the obvious implication that if everybody does it, you should do it as well.) The truth is, that Lagerlout's group of admired people do it all the time, and since he wants to be part of that group....

Our inclusion needs can lead us into some real quagmires.
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't say what happens in other countries,but if you are caught with falsified credentials in Japan, you risk deportation, fines, detention for 3 weeks without a lawyer, imprisonment, and being blacklisted from returning for 5 or 10 years. Is it worth it?
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ntropy



Joined: 11 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Every single damn comma on my CV/resume is accurate and anyone's whose isn't should be fired upon discovery and immigration status cancelled.
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moonraven



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice black and white thinking there. UNfortunately, the rest of the population lives in a world of gray....
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lagerlout2006



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

People on this forum make all sorts of outrageous claims about education experience etc.. And now you say padding the CV is unacceptable?

I'd like to see the collected CV's from folks on this forum. I'm sure it would make the NY Times bestseller Fiction list.
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moonraven



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lout:

You have more confidence in the creativity of the folks who contribute to this forum than is warranted.
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