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gabbo
Joined: 13 Sep 2004
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 Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 11:55 pm Post subject: ME Visa, and booking a Flight |
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Hey,
Just a quick question. I am supposed to book a return flight to attain my tourist visa to get into Taiwan. I was hoping to get a 60 day ME (I may have to leave the country on a Visa run, b/c my degree is taking a little longer to process than expected - mid Nov). Anyways, when should I book the return-side of the trip home for. I mean, it would seem a little odd to book my return home for next year when I am trying to tell the Taiwanese embassy/authorities that I am only there for 60 days? I'm a little confused
My apologies for all the posts,
Cheers,
Gabriel |
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wombat
Joined: 18 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 1:37 am Post subject: Re: ME Visa, and booking a Flight |
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| gabbo wrote: |
| I was hoping to get a 60 day ME (I may have to leave the country on a Visa run, b/c my degree is taking a little longer to process than expected - mid Nov). |
I may have said it before but I will say it again anyway. I think that you are making a mistake arriving before you have your degree documentation. You will not be able to secure legal work until you have this and therefore you will not be able to begin working or sign a contract with any reputable school until you have this document in hand. A visa run is inevitable, and attaining a second 60 day visa to 'visit' Taiwan may not be as easy as it was to attain the first one. In the worst case scenario you may only be issued a 30 day landing visa as it may be deemed that a total of 90 days is long enough to enjoy Taiwan. If so, then you would need to make another visa run once all of your paperwork is ready, and applying for a Resident Visa from overseas is not as easy as it is when applying for one here in Taiwan.
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| Anyways, when should I book the return-side of the trip home for. I mean, it would seem a little odd to book my return home for next year when I am trying to tell the Taiwanese embassy/authorities that I am only there for 60 days? |
My advice is that you get an open return ticket and book a flight out within the 60 day visa period. Once here, you can then call the airline to change the date when you have a better idea of when exactly you want to leave. |
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gabbo
Joined: 13 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for all the feedback, I really appreciate it. Yeah I believe you mentioned before that arriving pre-degree is a bad idea. I had been looking through some of the old posts and had seemed that finding a job without a degree, even if this means working illegally, was not all that difficult? While I am not a big fan of the idea (and I haven't any desire to try and dodge taxes or anything), I am less so of sitting around on my backside for another month doing nothing (care of University of Victoria bureaucracy - although I suspect this will be mild compared to Taiwan).
I have all sorts of other documentation that states I've completed my degree and will be receiving it mid-Nov. I've spoken with a few recruiting companies, including AAC, who seem to think this will work (but of course I remain skeptical). If worst comes to worst it sounds like I end up blowing some extra cash and spending a few weekends in Hong Kong?
Maybe it would just be best to head somewhere that doesn't care so much about degrees for a few months first, and wait for the high season in Taiwan to pick up.
Cheers,
Thanks again for all your help, including the previous post,
Gabriel |
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wombat
Joined: 18 Jun 2004
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| gabbo wrote: |
| I've spoken with a few recruiting companies, including AAC, who seem to think this will work (but of course I remain skeptical). |
And this is exactly why recruiters have such bad reputations here. They will tell you anything just to get you here. They don't get paid a cent unless you arrive and start working, regardless of the fact that it may not be in your best interests to do so. Considering that AAC told you this, I think it prudent to downgrade any recommendation of AAC to NOT RECOMMENDED. AAC is not even based in Taiwan, so I am sure that it is OK for Chris to recommend this course of action, afterall the consequences will have no effect upon him.
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| If worst comes to worst it sounds like I end up blowing some extra cash and spending a few weekends in Hong Kong? |
That is true. Of course it isn't a terrible idea to come to Taiwan now. You could always travel around and get a feel for where you would like to settle. You will burn some cash this way, but if you've got it then that's OK. I guess that my point is that you shouldn't expect that you will be able to secure a legal job until you have your degree document in hand. No matter what a recruiter may tell you. |
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TaoyuanSteve
Joined: 05 Feb 2003
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Location: Taoyuan
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| You should probably wait until you get your degree and arrive here after Christmas. Schools will be hiring for the new semester starting in the new year. You'll be arriving in high season for jobs and you'll have your degree, too. You'll have your pick of jobs. Seems like a much better arrangement. You get to stay home for Christmas, you get your degree and you arrive here when employers are hungry. Sounds great, doesn't it? You also can cut the loser scumbag recruiters out of the equation, which will make your start here much more pleasant. Just hold on a while. It's not far off anyway. We're almost out of September. Why don't you take a temporary job down at Mayfair mall for the Christmas rush and save up some money in the mean time? Good luck whatever you choose to do. |
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Aristotle
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Location: Taiwan
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Don't be too concerened aboput the legalities of teaching in Taiwan. Nearly all foreign teachers on Taiwan are working illegally. Tell your perspective employer your degree is in the mail.
You need to be here to get a good job.
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| You also can cut the loser scumbag recruiters out of the equation, which will make your start here much more pleasant. Just hold on a while. It's not far off anyway. We're almost out of September |
The next hiring season is not until after the Lunar New Year, late Jan. early Feb. You can still find a job but it may take little longer.
Buy an out bound , open ticket to Hong Kong for the return leg or make sure you can change the departure date without penalty. It will save you a lot of money and headaches.
Please read this.
http://www.geocities.com/taiwanteacher2002/Success.html
Good luck
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markholmes
Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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Location: Wengehua
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| If worst comes to worst it sounds like I end up blowing some extra cash and spending a few weekends in Hong Kong? |
If your you can't wait to get out of Canada, why not go sit on a beach in Cambodia or Thailand or something until your degree is ready? It'll be a lot cheaper than weekends in Hong Kong. Your money goes a hell of a long way in Cambodia. |
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