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Simone



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 1:42 pm    Post subject: How did you choose your destination? Reply with quote

I am a newbie, and will be arriving in Thailand in 3 weeks to do a CELTA course. I am doing it with ECC who promise a 12 month contract on completion of the course. However, I am not wholly convinced I want to teach in Thailand. Basically - I want to go EVERYwhere!
I just wondered how all of you chose your destinations, and what factors you considered.

I would also like to know where you have found it easiest to save a bit of money. I am coming with my fella and so we will benefit from a dual income, but we are saving towards a goal and need to be able to start putting some money aside.

Thanks for all of your help!

S.
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Simone



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

anyone?...
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Irish



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 4:07 pm    Post subject: I didn't really choose Turkey -- Turkey chose me. Reply with quote

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I just wondered how all of you chose your destinations, and what factors you considered.


Of the factors I considered when deciding where to work, the most important ones were the work setting (I wasn't too keen on language schools), the language(s) spoken in the host country (either one I knew or was interested in learning), the surrounding environment (I'm a city type but like relatively easy access to the water), pay (not that I'm all about money but I've got bills), and benefits (health insurance, free or subsidized housing, etc).

Unfortunately, there is no perfect place for me but I'd narrowed my choices down to one area of the world only to be offered a job somewhere else. I hadn't considered Turkey before but, the more I learned about it, the more I liked it. It doesn't match all my requirements, but it comes pretty darn close. And Turkish is a cool language.

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I would also like to know where you have found it easiest to save a bit of money.


A popular question and tough to answer as it depends on so many variables. The key thing is what you and your honey need in order to survive and reach your goal, whatever it is. Some people do quite well on very little while others manage to go broke on large salaries. There's also a matter of where you're eligible to work with regard to imigration requirements and the needs of your potential employer. If you've got some particular places in mind, you might search the boards for info and post specific questions about them.

Good luck on your CELTA!
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dmb



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't really choose Turkey. It chose me. When I first became qualified I applied to every country under the sun. The first offer I had was in Turkey. I took it and have never looked back.
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Hod



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 5:14 pm    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

Good topic.

Many teachers I’ve come across have no idea why they work or have worked in their countries. They have no knowledge or affinity with that country whatsoever.

If you really like the country you teach in, and would like it in 5 years time, you’re very lucky. You’re also in the minority.

p.s. When you’ve done your CELTA, get as far away from ECC as you can. Even with that 4-weeks of training, you deserve a lot lot more.
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basiltherat



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my case, it was the type of organisation and language training that the company was providing that interested me. Not really the country. I can't say I've been disappointed by this place, though.
basil

ps interesting topic
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leeroy



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't have any exclusive selectment criteria before. Next time, the most important thing on my list will be a country whose culture I can relate with and integrate with (to a certain extent). Lots of English teachers live "on the outskirts" of the cultures and societies of the countries they work in. I don't want to do that.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I chose Japan because I had lived and worked in Japan previously.
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JDYoung



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Where can you work legally. For me that eliminated much of Europe because I'm not a passport holder of an EU country. Then you need to consider whether or not the government of the country requires things like degrees for work permits and whether or not you have what they want. Fortunately I have a bachelor's so that wasn't a problem.

2. Whether or not there will be any unwritten rules about who can work there. I ran into a lot of places that didn't want me because of my age (55 at the time). You also said you have a partner. You may need to be aware of any rules about legal marriages if you plan on cohabiting.

3. Is there anything about the culture you would find intolerable - religion, health standards and risks, food, standards of personal hygiene.

4. Now that you have eliminated some countries you can begin to look at the actual teaching situation.
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got a globe, spun it on the floor, took out a straw and spit ball and spat. First one landed on Antarctica and I didn't fancy teaching to penguins. Next one hit Japan.
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Boy Wonder



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

UK- Was born there
Greece- 1st place to call back with job offer plus I'd never been there.
France- the prospect of working in the Alps.
Poland- women.
Spain- chance to work alongside a good buddy.
Qatar- money
Papua New Guinea-idyllic even paced lifestyle
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foster



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Applied at Nova in Japan, a few places in Taiwan and Nova was the first to respond. I went. Twas ok, but not perfect. They helped me get set up, the Visa and all went well, so I was happy.

Hong Kong came after a trip to HK. I fell in love with the place, had to move here. Great job offers and all, found a great place to live...it was all good good good...and still is.

I like Gordon's method tho! Smile
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anthyp



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I followed my nose ... to China!

Actually I didn't want to have to go around begging for hours (Europe), nor work too many. And I wanted to live a good lifestyle, by local standards. And I didn't want to teach children, little monsters!

Sounds like asking for too much? Well, it's pretty easy to find any kind of job here. There are just so damn many of them. I am working at a small technical school now, teaching college kids. I enjoy it, it's satisfying work ... and the food is delicious!

The Mainland is a bit of an asylum, and maybe not for first - time teachers -- then again, I am a first timer and I find it to be a really great experience!

Just don't come over here if you're an alcoholic, we already have enough of those.
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Ben Round de Bloc



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 11:52 am    Post subject: Re: How did you choose your destination? Reply with quote

Simone wrote:
I just wondered how all of you chose your destinations, and what factors you considered.

I would also like to know where you have found it easiest to save a bit of money.

To start with, I'm definitely not in the world-traveler category. However, in my younger, more adventuresome days, I spent some time -- a few times, actually -- visiting S. Mexico and Central America. Many, many years later when I started considering the possibility of living/teaching abroad, that corner of the world seemed to stick in my mind. Recalling my travels of long ago, I came up with Guatemala as a first choice and went there to check things out. However, at that time I found the atmosphere of the country too unsettling for me. The second place I visited on my list was the state of Yucatan in Mexico, although it was further down than second place on my priority list. I was offered a job, took it, and stayed.

Things I considered were climate, local culture(s,) language, and geography mainly.

I was well aware of the fact that the corner of the world I had chosen wasn't the best for someone whose priority was saving a bit of money.
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Simone



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:00 pm    Post subject: ECC Reply with quote

Hod - what's up with ECC? A lot of people have said we should stay clear of them, but some have said its a great 'first job'. We don't mind spending time looking for a job, and we have budgeted for a few months of unemployment, but we have no idea what the job market is like in Thailand and so the promise of 12 months employment straight away is quite appealing. I would welcome any negative or positive information about ECC. Confused
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