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alexis



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 12:24 am    Post subject: Any primary teachers? Reply with quote

I am in Ningbo teaching 3rd and 4th grade primary at a private boarding school. I thought I might get the chance to teach something but no such luck. The teachers tell me to just sing songs, play games and talk about U.S. culture. I have tried everything I know, tic tac toe, hang man, twinkle twinkle, but they know it all.... any suggestions? They have textbooks but the teachers teach them these and I am not suppose to. I would really appreciate any help. Alexis
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august03



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Location: Jiangsu, China

PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you checked out the Idea Cookbook page http://www.eslcafe.com/ideas/index.html plenty of ideas there.

Also Genki English is a great site for Primary English, it shows that you CAN teach the students something while also having fun. http://www.genkienglish.net/ Use your imagination, the bigger, the better, the more fun a game is the more the children will learn. I normally spend the first 10 mins going over the new topic for the day and spend the last 25 mins playing a game. Works well for me try it and see!!
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latefordinner



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You let them tell you what to do? AND WHAT NOT TO TEACH?? Have you observed any of their classes to see what their teaching objectives are, what their methods are, and what you have to learn from them? Have you done any testing or assessment, to determine for yourself what the students' strengths, weaknesses and needs are?

August 03 has a valid point; there are lots of juicy things that a creative teacher can do to teach through games and "make learning fun". I submit however the the most important thing is to have a plan before you go in; not only for the day, but for the term. Know what skills you are going to teach, what you want the kids to be able to do. If you don't know what you want them to learn, how do you measure their (and your) success or failure? Are you going to leave this in the (unsteady and untrustworthy) hands of relative amateurs, or take control of your own classroom and curriculum?
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Roger



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope you have some leeway in deciding what's best for your learners. If not, all hope is in vainQ!
You could, for instance, make it an objective of their English lessons to impove their comprehension; can you tell them simple stories, or read them aloud to them?

Another option is to walk them around the schoolyard and to point out objects and to name them in English. I successfully did PE with some of my classes - much to the happiness of some of my youngsters (not everyone was pleased, as no class will ever be 100% happy... but, man, action is half of the interaction).

You might elicit other responses on the Elementary Education forum.
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alexis



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I posted a topic on your website yesterday morning about teaching primary. I had someone reply yesterday morning with a lot of great links to sites on games, etc for teaching kids here in China. It has disappeared. Do you have any idea how I can get it back. I have hit refreash several times with no luck. Did it get moved somehow?
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Roger



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't see your post on Elementary Education.

Try www.bogglesworld.com - it's been hailed by many as a great source of resources.
You might also get new perspectives from www.wordsurfing.com
Sorry, I have mislaid my list of websites.
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Chris_Crossley



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Location: Still in the centre of Furnace City, PRC, after eight years!!!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 4:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Any primary teachers? Reply with quote

alexis wrote:
I am in Ningbo teaching 3rd and 4th grade primary at a private boarding school. I thought I might get the chance to teach something but no such luck. The teachers tell me to just sing songs, play games and talk about U.S. culture. I have tried everything I know, tic tac toe, hang man, twinkle twinkle, but they know it all.... any suggestions? They have textbooks but the teachers teach them these and I am not suppose to.


I am in Wuhan teaching 4th and 5th grade students at a public primary school. It seems that Alexis's private school is, like many other schools of their ilk, interested only in having an expatriate teacher as a kind of "trophy" person for the purposes of publicity. If the school administration were remotely serious about educating the children under their charge, it would be doing what my school is doing.

That is to say, my school has its contingent of seven expatriate teachers follow the coursebooks, all imported from the UK (yes, not a single word of Chinese in any of them), for six out of seven periods per week while doing an activity period for the remaining one. Each unit within the book contains one page concentrating on the grammar to be taught, an episode from an ongoing episodic story, and a topic page, which uses the new grammar and new vocabulary. The students also have to do exercises from an accompanying activity book.

As for singing songs and suchlike, which have nothing to do with the course materials, they are confined to the one activity period a week, which lasts no more than 40 minutes. Even so, they have to serve a purpose; right now, all activities, although chosen freely by the teachers, should be geared towards the forthcoming "English Day" in November.

To me, this seems right, because the focus should be on education for children, not exhibitionism for parents, given that this is what the students' parents at my school have paid extra for, even if the school is in the public, not the private, sector. By contrast, I wonder how Alexis can "talk" about U.S. culture to children so young. Does this mean that she is giving lectures?

I am happy that I am actually teaching, not lecturing, children, because children should be taught, not lectured. Lecturing should be saved for universities when students can go to sleep with relative impunity or else not come at all.

I feel that Alexis may have been duped by people working for the private sector who want only a foreign person as a "face", not a teacher. I would say to all people in this situation that one should make clear what it is that the teacher is expected to do BEFORE the semester starts, not after when the contract has been signed. Once one has signed on the dotted line, one is basically accepting what the school administration is going to tell an expat to do in the classroom even if that expat feels that it has more to do with entertaining, not teaching.

I myself trained as a high school teacher back in the UK and thus have UK-government recognised qualified teacher status. However, teaching primary in China has certainly been an eye-opener for me and I am glad to say that I am enjoying it very much. I am here at my school to educate my children, not be what is virtually a full-time entertainer such as Alexis, unfortunately, appears to be. By all means, make education as entertaining as you can, but don't be caught in the trap of expecting any and every school, which is supposedly dedicated to teaching children, to treat expats as teachers.

It is a fact of TESL life in China that a lot of Chinese people don't want expats to teach their children anything, never mind English (lest we "foreign devils" pass on any un-Chinese ideas about education), but it can boost their ego rating if they can boast of having an expat in their ranks "pour encourager les autres", as it were.
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kev7161



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I teach senior middle school kids at my school. We use textbooks, workbooks, listening (and repeating) tapes, CD-Rom, etc. I often venture outside the book for my own English-based activities that are linked to the unit we are working on.

However, our school won't give the primary (foreign) teachers any textbook at all or, for that matter, any kind of teaching materials! Well, they do have computers in their classrooms and big-screen TVs and chalkboards. What I mean is, the FTs have to come up with their own lesson ideas all the time, 5 days a week. I would think for a couple of months I would be creative enough to think of games and other activities, but then the ideas would start to dwindle. Some of the teachers have ventured to the Foreign Language Bookstore to buy their own stuff to use. Smart idea, but a bit maddening for them to have to use their own pocket money while working in this rich private school!
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