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nwsims
Joined: 15 Jun 2003
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Location: USA
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 Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 4:34 pm Post subject: Review/Analyze Contracts |
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PROVIDE SOLUTIONS FOR GLOBAL CONTRACT NEEDS. If you would like me to help you send an email or go to my website. I will not charge the teachers/students for review or analyzing a contract. I will only make suggestions.
I can help everyone with their contract solutions, contract requirements, business or school writing contracts or students wanting assistance reading the contracts. I was in Korea from May 2001 thru March 2002 and was with 2 private educational institutions. They were terrible contracts. The Korean people were great but the private schools were a problem. I left Korea in March 2002 and went to China and lived with my wife to be. At first I was with a high school with no contract. I left the school because there were no books. This was a mistake because I could have requested English materials and helped students that were eager to learn. Then I was asked to help at the GACD Research Institute in Nanning, Guangxi, PR China. This was a good assignment. I was working with a lot of adults that were mostly Engineers. It was a very short assignment, maybe 2 months. I was asked to go to Nanyo, Guangdong, PR China and teach English for an oil company-training center from November 2003 until May 2003. So, from May 2001 until May 2003 I was teaching English with Korean and Chinese students, with and without a contract. When you are in an Asian country that does not speak very much English you are always teaching English in some fashion.
I can tell you now that I have seen many different contracts. All contracts that are to long are worthless. A good contract has a short format and says everything in 2-3 pages. More complex contracts that involve secret clearance, rules, regulations, and policies can be in volumes or books. School contracts should be short and to the point unless the Government has specific requirements in writing. If it is a long contract something is being hidden. Many countries want English speaking teachers from a variety of English speaking countries, but they think it is important to impress the teachers and their directors.
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Chris_Crossley
Joined: 26 Jun 2004
Posts: 1797
Location: Still in the centre of Furnace City, PRC, after eight years!!!
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| Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 1:08 pm Post subject: Re: Review/Analyze Contracts |
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| All contracts that are too long are worthless. [...] More complex contracts that involve secret clearance, rules, regulations, and policies can be in volumes or books. [...] If it is a long contract something is being hidden. |
I worked for EF in Wuhan for two years. The contract was rather long and elaborate, yet I had no problems with it. However, one person, who was enquiring as to whether he could become a part-time teacher, reacted with utter disbelief at how long and convoluted it was. Exasperated, he said: "I've never seen anything as complicated as this in China!!!"
Interestingly enough, when I myself visited another private school in the same city just a few months ago, I was stunned to see that the contract had been copied word for word, apart from the name of the school. I said nothing to the school president, as, basically, it was none of my business, and it would be the school's lookout if it got into trouble for copyright violations.
I mentioned in one of my first postings, entitled "Summer seems like slavery", that EF (which I did not identify by name) wanted teachers to work for up to five more hours in the classroom per week during the peak summer and winter seasons (when the kids are out of school) for no more money, and I said (in my posting - with the benefit of hindsight and experience) that I believed that this was an absurd thing for schools to ask teachers to do.
And yet people, including myself, of course (simply because I was out of work back home and I wanted to work abroad), did sign up to the contract, which had this clause regarding the extra teaching. Inevitably, people working for the school did grumble, but only at the time when they were actually doing the extra work for no more pay for a few weeks, not before when they had been hired during the not-so-intensive off-peak season and so were unable at that time to appreciate what it meant to go through an intensive period of teaching disinterested, spoilt kids who had been shoved into the classroom by parents who had more money than sense.
I mentioned in my posting that never again would I sign a contract which had such a clause, but that is because I am still here in China after three years and can exercise my choice as to where I can work rather than go for the first school which offers me a job. Happily, I now work in a public primary school, which pays people extra for doing any extra work during the peak periods.
Hence, the moral is: Always check each and every clause in the contract. My advice is that, unless you are desperate for work (as I was 36 months ago), think carefully before signing a contract that binds you to doing some more work at peak seasons for no more money. |
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lajzar
Joined: 09 Feb 2003
Posts: 647
Location: Saitama-ken, Japan
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| Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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The original post appears to be a thinly disguised commercial advert.
In any case, he uses Korean contracts as an example, which is incredibly bad. In both my jobs in Korea, despite having the contract, despite pointing out the words of the contract to my employer, both employers chose to ignore anything they felt like, secure in the knowledge that the Korean legal system was all but impossible for a foreigner with no Korean ability to use. |
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nwsims
Joined: 15 Jun 2003
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Location: USA
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| Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| lajzar wrote: |
The original post appears to be a thinly disguised commercial advert.
In any case, he uses Korean contracts as an example, which is incredibly bad. In both my jobs in Korea, despite having the contract, despite pointing out the words of the contract to my employer, both employers chose to ignore anything they felt like, secure in the knowledge that the Korean legal system was all but impossible for a foreigner with no Korean ability to use. |
A disguised commercial is vague and does not give precise information. If there is anything else I should include let me know. |
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lajzar
Joined: 09 Feb 2003
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Location: Saitama-ken, Japan
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That it depends. Was that post actually meant to be a commercial advert or not?  |
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nwsims
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Location: USA
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| Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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| lajzar wrote: |
| That it depends. Was that post actually meant to be a commercial advert or not? |
It was not. |
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