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somanyroads
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 Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 4:07 pm Post subject: what is a boy to wear |
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| Hey just wondering what the norm is for wearing/not wearing to interviews? Suits? or just nicely dressed? Wondering if I need to find room in bag to bring my suit along. Thanks for any tips? |
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Taylor
Joined: 24 Oct 2003
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Location: Texas/Taiwan
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| Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Somanyroads,
If you are interviewing at a typical language school, you probably do not even need to wear a tie. A nice button-up shirt and Dockers would be fine.
If you are applying at a college, then a necktie would be a nice touch. The only time I wore a suit in Taiwan was on the day of our wedding banquet!
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A.K.A.T.D.N.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 4:19 am Post subject: |
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| Taylor wrote: |
Dear Somanyroads,
If you are interviewing at a typical language school, you probably do not even need to wear a tie. A nice button-up shirt and Dockers would be fine.
If you are applying at a college, then a necktie would be a nice touch. The only time I wore a suit in Taiwan was on the day of our wedding banquet!
Taylor |
Dockers are baggy, balloon-like. Chinese think you're trying to hide your fatness, like You're-big-man-buttcheeks, always wanting to sit down. May even think You've got herpes, hemmroids, horny. Think you're a model, come to post big-butt-bugleboy grin.
Sit down, shed a few bullets of sweat, wait for King Kong woman say You, big-white-plump-cheese cheeks, smile for us!! You smile, makes them kids happy, kiss butt. Then you wonder, baggy brown pants now in the closet, whether or not if big tie with smily faces would've been better.
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TaoyuanSteve
Joined: 05 Feb 2003
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Location: Taoyuan
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| Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 4:31 am Post subject: |
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| Just ignore the incoherent ramblings of you know who: AKA the newbie who can't hold an esl job in Taiwan. Taylor is probably right. Shirt and tie isn't usually required for interviews, especially if you're applying for a job that involves children. Probably don't need to bring the suit, unless you want to. I think there are some types of jobs where a tie would be a good idea at interview time. These are usually adult business type teaching jobs. Still, unless you are bigger than average, you can buy a shirt and tie here quite cheaply should the need arise. |
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A.K.A.T.D.N.
Joined: 12 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 5:34 am Post subject: |
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| TaoyuanSteve wrote: |
| Just ignore the incoherent ramblings of you know who: AKA the newbie who can't hold an esl job in Taiwan. Taylor is probably right. Shirt and tie isn't usually required for interviews, especially if you're applying for a job that involves children. Probably don't need to bring the suit, unless you want to. I think there are some types of jobs where a tie would be a good idea at interview time. These are usually adult business type teaching jobs. Still, unless you are bigger than average, you can buy a shirt and tie here quite cheaply should the need arise. |
How about if he, or she, is fat Steve! I've seen some chubby guys and gals over here, and saw one lady even weighing in at a 150 kilos or so. The South African gal I worked with had some fat to her, something I think the Chinese women envied. I think fat people should just show their fatness, that's all. Dockers look too sappy. This is why they always think us Westerners are big and fat, because we try to wear these baggy dockers, shirts, making us look even bigger and fatter.
Try something like a nice dress, like the South African gal did. For men, wear some corduroys, a collared shirt. Dockers are usually cotton-made anyway and collect alot of lint.
But all of this also depends upon the time of season. I couldn't wear long pants or a tie here in the summer. No way! I sometimes didn't even wear underwear, but the Chinese didn't know this! My socks got stinky and smelly so I switched to just sandals. I even went to a job interview here wearing WalMart clothes and got hired! You have to check out the seasonal fashions.
Could you really be serious that any job would require some type of uniform dress here anyway, seeing they think you're nothing? |
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wombat
Joined: 18 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 11:32 am Post subject: |
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I agree with Taylor.
You should generally dress for the interview in the manner that you would dress for the work that you are undertaking. In the case of teaching kids English, the dress code is generally pretty casual, but not sloppy nor messy. In order to make the best first impression you should of course dress a notch above this in what I call 'smart casual'. What I mean by this is a button up shirt and either pants or dress jeans. Unless you are going for an interview at a place that teaches corporate clients you can certainly forgoe the suit. |
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TaoyuanSteve
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Err...AKATDN. I believe I implied that if a person is pretty big, then bringing clothes from home is a must. However, the average guy needn't bother bringing a suit. For all but business English classes, a suit is not required for an interview.
Gee too bad you feel the way you do about Dockers. They're all the rage with the locals right now, btw. |
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A.K.A.T.D.N.
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| wombat wrote: |
I agree with Taylor.
You should generally dress for the interview in the manner that you would dress for the work that you are undertaking. In the case of teaching kids English, the dress code is generally pretty casual, but not sloppy nor messy. In order to make the best first impression you should of course dress a notch above this in what I call 'smart casual'. What I mean by this is a button up shirt and either pants or dress jeans. Unless you are going for an interview at a place that teaches corporate clients you can certainly forgoe the suit. |
See, this "smart/casual" style is what I'm talking about. It's almost as if your caught between wearing shorts or sandals, or just good old jeans, clothes that the Chinese know you damn well would rather wear instead but are just there to defer verses their delicate tastes of having to wear yellow school tee-shirts the kids are apt of barf on?
Those Haiwaiian shirts come in handy, those bermuda shorts. The dockers I just usually let me dog lay on, dust the floor with. |
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wombat
Joined: 18 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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| A.K.A.T.D.N. wrote: |
| See, this "smart/casual" style is what I'm talking about. It's almost as if your caught between wearing shorts or sandals, or just good old jeans |
When I say smart casual I am not sure if I am being clear. What I mean is a button up shirt, pants, and leather shoes for guys; and something similar for girls. I accept that some of the dessier jeans would fit within this category and therefore included them.
I wouldn't consider shorts, sandals, nor most pairs of casual jeans as appropriate for an interview. Previously I was an interviewer and I can say that I did see people dressed in that manner, however I can also say that it was difficult for me to look past that fact and concentrate on whether they were really quality applicants. |
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