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Freezer burnt · Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 10:45 am Post subject: Can I get more....?

This will be my third teaching, my second year in China.
I am holding out for 6000-7000 or more if i can get it, is it a resonable request.
I'm all too familiar with the excuses given when applying for more salary, but i am wondering if they are genuine.[/b]

Yu · Joined: 06 Mar 2003 Posts: 1219 Location: Shanghai

A guy who has been teaching at my school for 3 years is pulling 6000. I'd stay pull for it.

cmoseley · Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 299 Location: Touring

I think this would depend greatly on where you're going in China.

2 over lee · Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 2:04 pm Post subject:

Damn! There�s jobs paying more than that jumping around everybloodywhere.

I just can�t fathom this! And afer 3 years!

Searich Dalian
Canilx allover
Ace allover
Raffles allover
Any training company in Shanghai or Beijing.

loooook, I knew a Polish woman who got more han 10gs in Guangzhou, if you want to sit in your 2 bit town don�t complain about salary.

ChinaEFLteacher · Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 104 Location: China

location
hours
type of institution
It usually boils down to these variables, no? We should be getting upwards of 100RMB per hour, or equivalent in perks such as airfare, housing, etc. Am I wrong in assuming that is about the standard for most of the country?

2 over lee · Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 2:32 pm Post subject:

csmosley wrote:

2 over lee · Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 3:31 pm Post subject:

A germane point Robert, I should have added in D.C. without ever having been to China. My experience on the mainland was just shy of 3 years, how about you?

Freezer burnt · Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:30 am Post subject:

Thanks for the advice, I am in Australia at the moment, looking for a job.
so I'll keep plugging away untill i get what i want.

lily · Joined: 02 Aug 2004 Posts: 200

Keep in mind that the higher salaries are usually in cities with a higher cost of living. I'm on 4500/month, airfare, accom, utilities paid. Of that I have to work really hard to average spending 1000/month. I'm near the end of my contract, and have now been to BeiJing and Guilin (both on tours paid in US$), from AnHui province (same lat as Shanghai). Living costs per month are around 500, and that's going to the expensive supermarket, eating out 5 - 6 times a week - could do it for a h e l l of a lot cheaper.

2 over lee · Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 2:57 am Post subject:

For once I agree with El Lobo, there are many jobs around offering 7k for 20hrs of teaching. Only the oldies, christians, hermits, nativists and sloths work for less.

2 uber lee

mandu · Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 794 Location: china

You should try for more you have exper
i have been here 4 yrs teaching in kindergartens in shenzhen,i started out on 4000 a month,my 2nd job i was getting 6500,now Im geting at my new job 10,000 a month.

Madmaxola · Joined: 04 Jul 2004 Posts: 238

So maybe I'm a fool for asking but,

How do you find these 10k jobs?

Do you have to be in China already and make contacts, or is there a secret website, or do you have some sort of secret bargaining power....??

Tell me the methods, son! paw!

Idea

The Great Wall of Whiner · Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Posts: 4946 Location: Blabbing

This is my first year, and I am into my 10th month.

I started with 6000, not I'm pulling in a considerable amount more.

And I am a small do-hicky city to boot.

Like 2 over lee said, only oldies, desperate, sloths, and I would include "running from something" or people hiding out accept peanuts under 5000 a month.

Do the math.

300 students pay 150 a month.

School makes 30,000 off your back and your boss says "I can't afford anything over 4,000?"

Rolling Eyes

get real!

2 over lee · Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 3:57 am Post subject:

Not a critisism, but how do some of bear to live in a �small�town in China with no foreign collegues, teaching at some Uni for 3000 RMB? Although teaching hours may be low, how do you fend off the masses wanting to use you and your time? Unless your in Sichuan or Yunnun ( where there aren�t many jobs) you can�t be doing it for nature.

With so much demand for teachers in China, I don�t see why people stay in these conditions.

peggiescott · Joined: 20 Mar 2004 Posts: 162

2 Over,

Perhaps we stay [url]because[/url] of the conditions. Less pollution, friendlier people, a slower life style, less crime, less stress, more opportunity to interact with and get to know the Chinese people. I didn't come to China to hang out with a bunch of Westerners at the closest thing we can find to a "real" pub.

I make a mere 4,000 a month, send half of it home for some stateside bills and still have enough left to travel, eat out and indulge my desire for some Western comforts (a dehumidifier and a HEPA filter, I'm still looking for a cloths drier).

I'm at a public college and am teaching the age I like for a reasonable number of hours each week. (I don't have the energy for the babies nor the patience for hormonally driven middle schoolers.) I have a one year contract which means I get paid for the summer and have a lot of days off compared to most of the posts I read here on Dave's.

Thirty years ago I picked up a BMW at the factory in Germany and spent 6 months driving through Europe. I didn't spend more than a few days in any one city. That was what I wanted then; it's not necessarily what I want now. (Well, I do still want to drive from the States to the Panama Canal)

I've looked at other cities to teach in next year and won't move to a big city. If I do leave here it will be to somewhere very much like this little burg, with better looking buildings, hopefully.

I fend off too many requests on my time the same way you do, by saying no.

It's just a different point of view with different goals and priorities. It seems some of the posters are almost hostile to those of us who make this choice. I'm a good teacher, have great credentials, am the right color and a female. Why would you want me out there competing for your job when I'm willing, and happy, to stay in my little town?

Peggie