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Dalaoer · Joined: 15 Oct 2004 Posts: 24 Location: The Lost World

Hi gals and fellers.

I'm tempted by it. Teach IT, 16hrs/wk, 8K+, accomm., flight, insurance. That's as advertised, I'm not sure what it will be in reality. Those are the conditions for a BSc holder, and I have a master's and 3 years' experience teaching IT (6 years teaching English). In your experience, what salary do you think I can negotiate? (Remember it's a public uni Sad

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It looks like a nice gig, and the college seems serious enough. They teach most subjects through English.

I've always been in a provincial town and I am ignorant and wary of the capital's bright lights! Laughing

Has anybody worked there/have you heard any stories?

Thanks folks!

hhyy · Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 100

Dalaoer · Joined: 15 Oct 2004 Posts: 24 Location: The Lost World

London Angel · Joined: 15 Aug 2004 Posts: 21

I think you think you are worth more money, and of course you are. The trouble is, the university will not have it. 8000 kuai a month is one of the highest salaries for a foreign teacher I have seen advertised by a Chinese university, but the reality is, if you have bills at home, it isn't enough to pay them. Your best option is to look for a foreign teaching organizaton that pays in foreign currency. or at least provides a foreign level salary. Nowadays there are many US, UK, Australian, Singaporean joint ventures in China.
Also ask whether you will be teaching from a set book or will be expected to write teaching materials which are suitable for the English level of your students. Their level will probably be a lot lower than the university will admit, and you will have to take the responsibility (and the time) re-writing lesson materials. Writing could take hours every night (speaking from current experience).
You should also know:
about facilities - will they pay for photocopies of materials or will you have access to a photocopier, that sort of thing;
about homework - will you have to spend hours marking the stuff for your class of 75 students?

burnsie · Joined: 18 Aug 2004 Posts: 489 Location: Beijing

I work for a private business school in Beijing teaching with all the normal business subjects such as Accounting, HR Management, Finance, Marketing, Computing etc.

They are all taught in english and when the students finish the course (3 years) they get a diploma from an english university.

At the end of the day the courses are basic level entry and usually you teach english words related to the subject. I would say teaching IT would be very much similar.

London Angel brought up some good points.

I have also heard of a maths teacher coming to China to teach maths to University students but the job was just teaching english terms in maths!

Hope this helps.

Dalaoer · Joined: 15 Oct 2004 Posts: 24 Location: The Lost World

Thanks for the feedback, folks. Much appreciated.

I wonder if anybody has taught/is teaching at BUT?

AsiaTraveller · Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 4:39 pm Post subject:

Dalaoer,

You might also want to contact some software and hardware companies. The need to train 'offshore' workers in China is currently great--in IT topics as well as in English.

Obtaining consulting gigs with foreign companies can get you higher pay (from far fewer hours) than any type of university teaching.

Dalaoer · Joined: 15 Oct 2004 Posts: 24 Location: The Lost World

Thank you for the feedback, folks.

burnsie · Joined: 18 Aug 2004 Posts: 489 Location: Beijing

Yes, good point. Look to 250-300 RMB an hour with your experience.

AND I am not joking at these pay levels. It's out there.

Actually I think higher to be honest because of your experience.

Dalaoer · Joined: 15 Oct 2004 Posts: 24 Location: The Lost World

Darn! Where's the 'drool' emoticon?! Very Happy