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Voldermort



Joined: 14 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 9:48 pm    Post subject: Expired visa Reply with quote

Heya all, yet another Chinese visa problem. Not your run of the mill "Do I need a Z to work in China?" though Smile

Has anybody ever had any experience with expired visas in China? Let me clarify this, an expired visa without a little green book. From what I can gather, there is a 500 Yuan a day overstay fine, which has a maximum limit of 5000 Yuan (10 days). The fine is not the only problem here. Trying to leave the country could result in being banned, so in my opinion the best course of action is to try and get a renewal inside China. This may be a problem with a 3 month overstay.

Has anybody ever heard or experienced anything similar?
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vdrose



Joined: 05 Nov 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Z visa is a working visa,it's a MUST if you intent to work in China
expired visa huh! it's really a big problem never attempt to have your visa expire penalty and you will be banned in China

br Very Happy
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Roger



Joined: 19 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is unlikely they extend your old and expired visa retroactively; I once tried, and they were saying that yes, they could do it; in the end no one did (because I was not registered anywhere as a resident, neither in a hotel nor on campus).
I thought I would have to fork out 500 kuai per day multiplied by 3; I took enough money with me and headed for the Zhuhai border.
The woman at the Foreigners counter spotted the problem but didn't know what to do... She pressed a button and her supervisor came. The two of them debated my problem for a while in Chinese, but none asked me any question. They probably assumed this laowai couldn't be asked in Mandarin, and they couldn't speak a single word of English (although they must be able to read a foreign passport!!!).
Believe it or not - they finally let me go without paying the fine!
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vdrose



Joined: 05 Nov 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They probably assumed this laowai couldn't be asked in Mandarin, and they couldn't speak a single word of English (although they must be able to read a foreign passport!!!).
Believe it or not - they finally let me go without paying the fine



Very Happy GREAT


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vdrose



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Roger

It's really a great experience

BR Very Happy
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Roger



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vdrose wrote:
@Roger

It's really a great experience

BR Very Happy


Really? Thanks! It certrainly was an interesting experience, but let me admit I was full of bowel movement product throughout that unnerving moment at the customs.
I did visit several PSB bureaus before, in the tow of local friends. Visiting the PSB with an expired visa... shhh... it's an intimidating experience, I tell you!

Just for anybody's information: don't even try the Shenzhen-Hong Kong border! The Shenzhen PSB are the most paranoid cops. It's them that man those booths at the border, while over in Zhuhai it is staff from some central government agency! I don't know why but in any event, the Zhuhai authorities seem to be more tolerant.
Good luck anyway!
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vdrose



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah zhuhai-macau border is the best,i tried to pass there last year wow!i am carrying a super excess baggage and they did not say anything!!!

br Very Happy
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Nauczyciel



Joined: 17 Oct 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guys,

My girlfriend and I had five-day visas to Shenzen Economic Zone which nobody told us about and only after three months when we demanded seeing the police the school returned our passports. At the police station it turned out that for the past 3 months we had been in China illegally. At that time US citizens would have been charged 800RMB per day or something, but Polish citizens "only" 100RMB. In the end, a very nice woman in a dark-blue uniform issued us with mysterious two-week visas enough to sort out things like arranging earlier departure etc. We didn't have to pay a penny and guess what - we passed SZ-HK border with cash in our pockets and DVD player in the suitcase - with no problems whatsoever! But it doesn't mean we didn't have the same physiological problems as Roger did;)

Careless and gullible as we were, we went through. But next time we will do things differently!
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oiboy



Joined: 05 Mar 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a similar experience last year:

Go to the local PSB.
Pay the fine they issue you. (They will issue you an interm 2-7 day L visa) So you can leave China.

Take a trip to HK.

Get a F visa. If you are American, you may have problems with that. (30 day stay restrictions)

I went to
http://www.jta.com.hk/china_visa.htm

I found them the cheapest and they speak English too.
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