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CresencioHernandez
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 Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 8:04 am Post subject: Paying for Visa Sponsership |
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I just got a job and my employer ask me to pay 20,000 yen for my visa sponsership. Is this poplular among smaller schools?
Does anybody know how much the school has to pay to sponser somebody? |
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PAULH
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| Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 8:13 am Post subject: Re: Paying for Visa Sponsership |
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| CresencioHernandez wrote: |
I just got a job and my employer ask me to pay 20,000 yen for my visa sponsership. Is this poplular among smaller schools?
Does anybody know how much the school has to pay to sponser somebody? |
Visa sponsorship is FREE as all he does is hand in paperwork to immigration. It doesnt cost the employer anything to sponsor you. Sounds like he has a good racket going there. Maybe the unions need to take a look at it. |
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CresencioHernandez
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| Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 8:33 am Post subject: |
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| How should I handle the situation? |
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PAULH
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| Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 8:42 am Post subject: |
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| CresencioHernandez wrote: |
| How should I handle the situation? |
Where are you by the way?
(If you are in Japan) Tell him you refuse to pay and perhaps tell immigration your employer is charging you for sponsorship which I believe is probably illegal. Immigration certainly doesnt charge him anything. They may even take his sponsoring privileges away from him.
My guess is he has done this before and people are too cowed to say no.
Its your choice as to whether you pay or not, but its really a form of legalised blackmail.
MY guess is he is worried that he sponsors your visa and you will do a bunk on him in three months and still have a valid visa. Making you pay is one way of making sure you stay out your contract.
AEON makes teachers pay $200 when they apply for a job in the US but they get it back when they arrive in Japan. They have a lot of trouble with people they sponsor in the US but disappear as soon as they get here. Knowing they have paid out money makes them think twice about doing that. Sponsorship of a visa itself through immigration is free though.
What does this guy do? |
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Gordon
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| Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 8:47 am Post subject: |
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| If he is trying to rip you off now, what does that say about what kind of employer he is? |
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PAULH
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| Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 8:49 am Post subject: |
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| Gordon wrote: |
| If he is trying to rip you off now, what does that say about what kind of employer he is? |
You want to tell us what other goodies he has lined up for you in his contract? Sounds like he takes you for an incredible sucker who will roll over and play dead at anything he says, just so you can get a visa and work here. |
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CresencioHernandez
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| Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 8:53 am Post subject: |
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| I am in JAPAN, and I have already gave him 10,000 yen, just because I dident know the process, and figured it was kinda insurance of some sort just to make sure that I dident bail out before my contract is up. I really need this visa sponsership. |
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Iwantmyrightsnow
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| Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 9:52 am Post subject: |
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Get the visa and don't pay anymore if you can. Be quite about it until you are ready to leave and then go to immigration and report him. Try to get a receipt stating what the money was for. tell him you need it for a tax deduction.
but others have said. If he is doing this wait and see what else he has install for you. Unless you need the visa (but guess you do), don't take the job and report him now! |
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PAULH
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| Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 10:07 am Post subject: |
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| CresencioHernandez wrote: |
| I am in JAPAN, and I have already gave him 10,000 yen, just because I dident know the process, and figured it was kinda insurance of some sort just to make sure that I dident bail out before my contract is up. I really need this visa sponsership. |
1. If you are giving him money and your employment is dependent on you giving him money before you have even worked for him its tantamount to bribing him to employ you. Totally unethical and not done in Japan.
2. If he takes money from you and you dont know what its for it means he is stealing from you. Your BAD for giving him money without asking for a receipt or asking what its for. Any deductions have to come out of your payslip and be declared as legal deductions (rent insurance etc) |
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PAULH
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| Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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| CresencioHernandez wrote: |
| I am in JAPAN, and I have already gave him 10,000 yen, just because I dident know the process, and figured it was kinda insurance of some sort just to make sure that I dident bail out before my contract is up. I really need this visa sponsership. |
You can 'bail out' of your contract any time during | |
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