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anlia



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:55 am    Post subject: A few questions about moving to Japan Reply with quote

Hello all

I realise much of what I am about to ask will have probably been asked before but I can't find the answers.

I have been teaching in Taiwan for the past two years. I've taught all age groups.

Keeping in mind that I haven't decided on a location yet please look at the folowing questions.

I have two cats and there is no way I am leaving them behind. I love them too much and besides that there is no one here I would leave them with. I checked out the rules for transporting cats and as far as I could see they may have a short period of quarenteen. The flight is very short compared to taking them home so the discomfort shouldn't be too unbearable. I'v been looking at housing and I can't find any information about whether or not pets are allowed in most apartment houses. Surely there must be pets in Japan so my question is how and where can I find housing that will accept my pets. I don't mind paying extra. Are there any links to newspapers that would be able to provide the information I am looking for?

Secondly, are there any language schools that you recommend highly? I have been studying Chinese in Taiwan and would like to continue studying language.

What is the best visa to get?

Thank you for taking the time to read my post. Any comments and suggestions are of course welcome.
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Nismo



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 6:50 am    Post subject: Re: A few questions about moving to Japan Reply with quote

anlia wrote:
Hello all

I realise much of what I am about to ask will have probably been asked before but I can't find the answers.

I have been teaching in Taiwan for the past two years. I've taught all age groups.

Keeping in mind that I haven't decided on a location yet please look at the folowing questions.

I have two cats and there is no way I am leaving them behind. I love them too much and besides that there is no one here I would leave them with. I checked out the rules for transporting cats and as far as I could see they may have a short period of quarenteen. The flight is very short compared to taking them home so the discomfort shouldn't be too unbearable. I'v been looking at housing and I can't find any information about whether or not pets are allowed in most apartment houses. Surely there must be pets in Japan so my question is how and where can I find housing that will accept my pets. I don't mind paying extra. Are there any links to newspapers that would be able to provide the information I am looking for?


I'm going to be honest with you here - it will be hard to find a place that will accomodate your pets. Apartments provided by the big 4 schools do not allow pets, so you immediately lose those as options.

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Secondly, are there any language schools that you recommend highly? I have been studying Chinese in Taiwan and would like to continue studying language.


If you want to continue studying Mandarin, good luck finding it taught in English. If you want to begin studying Japanese, there are local city-run programs that are sometimes free. You will have a busy schedule learning Japanese and working full time, but it is definitly do-able.

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What is the best visa to get?


American? The only visa to get is work, unless you are married to someone with a visa or citizenship. Most other English speaking countries? You have two options, and the "best" visa depends on what you want to do during your stay. Work Holiday visa is great for 50% fun, 50% work. Don't expect to be rolling in money with a Work Holiday Visa, though.

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Thank you for taking the time to read my post. Any comments and suggestions are of course welcome.


Don't forget to bring 200,000 Yen for start up costs, 400,000 if you come to Japan before securing a job.
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anlia



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 8:44 am    Post subject: thanks Reply with quote

Hello

Thank you so much for your reply. If I choose to find my own housing will it be very difficult to find a place that would allow pets?

I am thinking of bringing over at least 500 000 yen for key money ect.

I've been studying and working full time for the past few years so that would be okay. Anything to keep me busy.

Again, thank you.
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azarashi sushi



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most apartments don't allow pets, although it is possible to find ones that do. The building that I live in at the moment allows pets... And quite a few people have dogs, I've noticed.

It's just a matter of going around to real estate agents and checking... But being a foreigner AND with pets, your choices will be greatly reduced.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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anlia



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To azarashi sushi. Your idea about real estate agents is an excellent one. Thank you very much.
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I have two cats and there is no way I am leaving them behind. I love them too much and besides that there is no one here I would leave them with.

Since Agent has left us and Shmooj is in Korea, I will be the new sarcastic di
ack in this scenario. They're cats! Food in many Asian countries. You're pinning your future based upon your cats? Did you bring these cats to Taiwan or acquire them there? You should plan your life around what's best for you and not some animal that what scratch you if not declawed.



Dear Homer

Thank you for your reply. I will try my best to answer your concerns.

I got them in Taiwan. I am a responsible person and as such will live up to my responsibility towards these two cats that I have chosen to bring into my life.

I am not sure if you have ever been to Taiwan and I can not speak with any authority on any other Asian country but I will not willingly and knowingly leave my cats in this country where they will not be taken care of. They will not survive on the streets and as I have adopted them I will be a very bad and soulless person to put them out on the streets. Cats are treated like vermin here by most of the locals and I will not abandon my pets to a life like that.

I have no foreigner friends here I would trust to look after my cats and there is no SPCA. Besides all that I will repeat that I love my cats dearly even if I do get a scratch now and again. To me they are not just pets or my neighbours source of food.

Travelling with children can also be viewed as ill advised and yes, I know my cats are not my biological kids but the
y hold the same place for me in terms of responsibility and I love them to bits.

I do not feel that I am pinning my future upon my cats. The moment I adopted them they became part of that future. It may not make sense to you but as a person who has had pets all her life and who were taught the value of life and responsibility I would feel too guilty leaving them behind to be mistreated or to be left again by someone else who couldn't care to go through the trouble.

As to planning my life around what is best for me I might add that seeing as I am going through all the trouble to include my pets in my future life then maybe that is what is best for me. Perhaps I am one of those people who love their pets so much that they will not just get rid of them because it is inconvenient.

And what is diack by the way? Was that a typo? And why is there a need for one of this forum?

Thanks again for the replies

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Glenski



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What is the best visa to get?


Not really sure what you are driving at here. You won't stop in at Immigration and select a visa like you would fresh fruit at a supermarket.

Visas depend on a few things.
1. Nationality. What's yours?
2. Education. The standard work visa requires a bachelor's degree, or several years of teaching experience (more than you stated). Do you have a degree?
3. Age. If you qualify for a working holiday visa on the basis of your nationality (Americans can't get it), you still have to fall in the age range of 18 to 30.
4. Sponsorship. Work visas are not purchased or rented. They are given to you by immigration if you meet the requirements I have stated AND if you have an employer to sponsor you.

Of course, if you are married to a Japanese, you can get a spouse visa and work at any job, not just teaching.
Student visas let you work PT, but you must be enrolled in a Japanese school first.
Dependent visas are for people who are married to non-Japanese that have FT jobs in Japan. You can only work PT, though.
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anlia



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski

The question is really just what the best visa to apply for is. I am well aware that Immigration isn't a fruit stall where one can pick and choose. You take what is given to you.

I'm a South African. Mother is British.

I have a B.A. degree and a TEFl certificate. I have read ads from schools saying no experience is needed as I have read ads from schools asking for one, two or more years of teaching experience.

I fall well within the age range.

Work visas in Taiwan are sponsored as well. I am not aware of anyone here renting one, that much I gathered. A work visa must be sponsored by your place of emploment. Got it.

I was planning on enrolling at a language school anyway. I was unaware that you could get a student visa that way. What would be considered part time in Japan? In Taiwan as far as I am aware it is less than sixteen hours a week.

Thank you for your reply.
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anlia



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suggesting that English is not my first language simply from my country of origin shows a lack of understanding towards the nature of language.
I would add that the nationality of my mother is what defines my mother language as it is the language I have heard from birth hence the phrase mother tongue.

I suppose attitudes like this would be why ABC's and the like get paid lower wages. Simply because they are Chinese or Asian looking that means that they are not able to speak English as well as some other person who grew up speaking the exact same language all of their lives. It is an old argument and one I am quite tired of.

Do not think all South Africans to be non native speakers. We are not. We were a British colony for a long, long time and simply because we do not all have British accents ( I do have a British accent by the way ) does not mean we should be rated lower than any other country.

I am sure you posted your statement even though it had nothing to do with my questions and even though my original post suggested that I had been doing my research, out of the goodness of your heart and not to be demeaning in any way. I thank you. [/quote]
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David W



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PAULH wrote:


If you are South African it would mean you are a non-native speaker of English.



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Have you ever been to South Africa? Of course there are native English speakers there, what are you talking about. Rolling Eyes
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Nismo



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know 4 people, off the top of my head, from South Africa and they all only speak English. They even fit the English-speaker stereotype that might give them a boost in their application process to teach English in Japan (if they wanted to). But what matters is the official language of the country (South Africa has 11 - ELEVEN - official languages, the two most widely used are Afrikaans and English). You'll find the most trouble comes from the Japanese government, not potential employers. In theory, you could have been born and raised in Iceland and only know English - but can you convince the Japanese government? Hong Kong was once a British colony as well...
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Its the first I have heard South Africa was a British colony too, I alway believed it was run by the Dutch, even all its Prime Ministers have been Afrikaans.

The Dutch indeed did colonize South Africa, but the British took over in 1709 for a while, then it reverted back to the Dutch until 1806, when the British regained control.
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anlia



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

When I say English is an official language it is also a native language. We are indeed a rainbow nation. South Africa is listed as one of the native English speaking countries according to Taiwan which I admit does not mean much in Japan.

A funny thing about our education system was that while I was still in school you had two languages as part of your subjects. Both English and Afrikaans had to be passed or else you failed your grade and had to repeat the year. Logic thus dictates that since we are a country with so many official languages and our media caters to all of them that the likelihood that you will find people who can speak only one language is greatly reduced.

But back to my original question. Am I correct in understanding then that even if i find an employer (which I have by the way, not just one ) willing to sponsor a work visa for me the Japanese goverment may still deny it simply because of my nationality? Or do they approve all work sponsored visas?

Thank you for your replies.
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anlia



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually South Africa only gained independance from England in 1961. Not that long ago then, is it?

The Anglo Boer war was between the English and the Afrikaners ( don't know how you can have a war against a language Smile ). During this war concentration camps were used that is said to have given Hitler the idea for his concentration camps.

But seeing as you are not going to let this non native thing go then I thank you for your information. I state again that I am not simply a fluent speaker of English. I am a native speaker but that does not seem to have trickled through to you yet. A work visa when sponsored by an employer can be granted. Got it. Thanks.

Now that you had your fun "beating up" this South African I think I have the information I need as asked for by my original post.

Thanks to all the constructive posters with real advice.
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anlia



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before you accuse me of being smug and condecending please do me the favour of rereading your posts starting with the first one whereby you assumed because I was a South African English was not my first language.

That the posting of three questions could have turned this thread into two pages is just silly. It is a waste of time and I am sure that both you and I have better things to do than post on an internet forum, don't we?

I am well aware that it is not you I have to get past. If it were then Japan would be South African free as you believe that we are not native speakers. In your own words if I have an employer to sponsor me why would immingration be concerned or did I misread your post about immigration just needing to know I wouldn't fall through the cracks.

Now I appreciate the fact that you feel the need to beat a dead horse and in my previous post I stated that I received the information I needed and I thanked all for contributing.

By the way you never seemed fit to mention your nationality. If you did I am sure I could dig up some remarks about that somewhere but really why would I want to?
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