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markle



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
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Location: Out of Japan

PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 1:19 am    Post subject: For the foodies Reply with quote

Disclaimer: I've got a bit of a headcold right now so if anything doesn't make any sense put it down to that.

Over the past couple years cooking has become like therapy for me so I'm just preparing things (food and food related -wise) I should stock up on before I come over. Obviously I'm not bringing tons of it, just a couple bottles or so to tide me over. So which stuff is impossible to find, can be found but/and/or is only in Tokyo, at insane prices, on a full moon; or is readily available. I found a book titled food buying in Japan which is a bit dated but still pretty useful especially for terminology etc.

Here's the (to be expanded) list
lemons / limes
flat leaf/Continental parsley
pinenuts
balsalmic vinegar
tahini
chick peas
olive oil (extra virgin)
pide / Turkish bread
smoked praprika
salami/chorizo etc
olives (kalamata, marianted, etc)
sun-dried semi-dried tomatoes
cheese namely fetta, blue, parmasean (and I mean Grana or Reggianno aged varieties not Kraft)
fresh herbs esp. basil, coriander, mint, thyme, oregano

Also given the current battle with my wife over washing the dishes what's the story on dishwashers?
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azarashi sushi



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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Location: Shinjuku

PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where are you going to be living? That would make a difference on the availabilty of stuff.

In Tokyo anyway, the only things I have never found are flat leaf parsley and tahini... Although I have seen a Chinese sesame paste. I don't know what it's like though as I've never tried it. All the other things you mentioned are available at reasonable prices.

As for dishwashers, space is an issue for a lot of people. That's why they don't have dishwashers.
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justcolleen



Joined: 07 Jan 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can make your own tahini:

4 cups sesame seeds
1/4-1/2 cup olive oil

1. Preheat the oven to 350�F. Spread the sesame seeds on a cookie sheet.
2. Bake (do not brown), shaking frequently, until fragrant, 8 to 10 minutes.
3. Let cool, then put sesame seeds in a blender or food processor.
4. Add 1/4 cup of olive oil.
5. Process to a smooth, thick paste, about 5 minutes.
6. Add more oil to bring the paste to a smooth consistency.
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markle



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 1:35 am    Post subject: , Reply with quote

I'll be outside Nagoya.

I'll be in a 3 b'room apt so space won't be an issue.

tahini and flat leaf parsley hmm not bad
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azarashi sushi



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But is there space for a dishwasher?
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Eleckid



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Location: Aichi, Japan

PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 3:41 am    Post subject: Re: For the foodies Reply with quote

I live 10 min train from Nagoya. You can find most of your things from supermarkets, organic/health food stores, or international food stores (pricey). Dishwashers here are smaller.

I think instead of trying so hard to find the home ingredients you want here, why don't you try to change the way you cook? Try to use the local ingredients here, to substitute or replace the ingredients you usually use. It might taste better! And if you learn to cook local dishes, then finding ingredients will not be stressful anymore~ I think learning how to cook local dishes using the local ingredients are part of the cultural experience~

The first few months for me here was not so good cuz I was frustrated not being able to find (or found but it's pricey) the ingredients I was used to at home, but then I learned to adapt & make use of what I can find, then life got much better. Besides, some of the fresh ingredients I find here cannot be found in my home country, so mind as well eat a lot of those while I have the chance to.
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JimDunlop2



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 1:27 pm    Post subject: Re: For the foodies Reply with quote

markle wrote:
. So which stuff is impossible to find, can be found but/and/or is only in Tokyo, at insane prices, on a full moon; or is readily available.


If I say "yes" it means either: any supermarket should stock this normally OR you may have to visit a few stores, but you should be able to track it down given a little effort. Otherwise, I've noted exceptions.

lemons / limes
yes. grocery

flat leaf/Continental parsley
yes. PAX (grocery)

pinenuts
yes. PAX (grocery) or restaurant wholesaler

balsalmic vinegar
yes.

tahini
in yer dreams. Unless a specialty shop has it. otherwise mailorder only.

chick peas
yes. may have to go to restaurant wholesaler or foreign foos store.

olive oil (extra virgin)
yes. anywhere

pide / Turkish bread
not even a prayer.

smoked praprika
nope.

salami/chorizo etc
yes. Ironically, chorizo is sold at Familymart convenience store but not at the regular supermarket.

olives (kalamata, marianted, etc)
yes. Limited selection unless you go to a foreign food import store.

sun-dried semi-dried tomatoes
yes. PAX (grocery) or other foreign food store.

cheese namely fetta, blue, parmasean (and I mean Grana or Reggianno aged varieties not Kraft)
yes. May be a little expensive though. Red cheddar is a biatch to find, but not impossible. Blue=OK, but a little pricy. Then again, it was back home too. Cottage cheese = no way. Oh yeah, and the sour cream here is awful. It is SOUR and solid -- like cream cheese -- not the yogurty stuff you get in N. America.

fresh herbs esp. basil, coriander, mint, thyme, oregano
yes.

Also given the current battle with my wife over washing the dishes what's the story on dishwashers?

30,000 minimum from Kojima (for a small apt sized one) unless you get one used from somewhere for less.

If you have any specific questions beyond this, PM me. I do the cooking in our household, and usually pretty international too. I LOVE African food for instance. Ever have Ethiopian Doro Wat? It's amazing!

Cheers,

JD
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Nismo



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The grocery store near me didn't sell limes. I was horrified.
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markle



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the replies,

I'm encouraged by the fact that most things can be found, I suspected as much anyway.

Eleckid thanks for the advice but my kitchen here has a fairly good selection of Japanese food already so I'm not going to starve because I don't know/ can't cook the local food.

Actually anybody have any suggestions for places to learn Japanese cooking over there, my sushi and nigiri skills have a lot to be desired.

What about bringing stuff in? Anything that the customs /quarantine guys will confiscate immediately? (I'm thinking cheese)
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bshabu



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Location: Kumagaya

PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Actually anybody have any suggestions for places to learn Japanese cooking over there, my sushi and nigiri skills have a lot to be desired.


Try your local ward office. They often have an International Division that have a lot of info for foreigners. They will know where you can learn stuff like that.
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fizayded



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I head over there I'm gonna take a bunch of dried chilis, so I can soak em and make some good salsa over there. Smile How expensive are fruits and veggies really though? My girlfriends mom was telling me a story about 100 dollar watermellon.
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Nismo



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are these melons that you would only ever give as a gift. They are hand massaged daily and are still attached to a large portion of the stem, which is still green. They can sell for up to 15,000.

Watermelons are typically around 1,000 yen and are rather small. An apple might sell for 300 yen.

The fruit in Japan can be expensive or cheap, depending on what fruit you are looking to buy. It looks really nice, but that is a negative trait. A Japanese teacher I had informed us to steer clear of fruit that looks too perfect, because most likely it was raised with gratuitous amounts of pesticides and other foreign agents.
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Gordon



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nismo wrote:
A Japanese teacher I had informed us to steer clear of fruit that looks too perfect, because most likely it was raised with gratuitous amounts of pesticides and other foreign agents.


In other words, just like North American supermarkets. Yes, they have to be almost perfect to sell, but if you go to a green grocer, you will see the normal looking fruit for half the price. I rarely buy apples over 100-150 yen and they are as large as a grapefruit.
You can buy a bag of mikans (Mandarin oranges) now for 150-300 yen/bag, however I live near the mikan area of Japan.
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