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Professor urges Foreign EFL teachers to attend church...!

 
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ghost



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 7:38 pm    Post subject: Professor urges Foreign EFL teachers to attend church...! Reply with quote

Professor Susan Lutgendorf, a psychology professor at the University of Iowa suggests that church going may contribute to the overall health and longevity of EFL teachers in Turkey and other places. Recognizing the difficulty of attending church services in many parts of the world, the foreign teachers could set up their own "service," reading passages from appropriate texts and listening to church music.

Here are some selected excerpts from the article (source: Journal of Health Psychology Study of Churchgoing. Regular attendees live longer than non-believers, University of Iowa, 2004 - 12 year study tracking mortality rates).

A 12 year study tracking mortality rates of more than 550 adults over the age of 65 found that those who attended services at least once a week were 35 percent more likely to live longer than those who never attended church.

The research reported in "Health Psychology," found that going to church boosted an elderly person's immune system and made them less likely to suffer clogged arteries or high blood pressure.

Susan Lutgendorf, said: "There's something involved in the act of religious attendance, whether it's the group interaction, the world view or just the exercise to get out of the house. There's something that seems to be beneficial."

Robert Wallace, a co-author of the report, added that doctors could even prescribe a course of church attendance to benefit patients. "It was an interesting and provocative find," he said. " I think that now, we will be trying to aggregate the meaning and experience of going to church to the extent that one can produce medical intervention based on a better understanding of that."

The researchers found that among individuals who reproted never attending religious services, the risk of death over the 12 year period was 52 per cent. By contrast, the risk of death of those who attended chruch services more than once a week was 17 per cent over the same period.

Thirty-five per cent of the 64 participants who never atteded church died before the end of the study. By comparison, 85.5 per cent of participants who went to church twice or more a week survived.

Although the researchers acknowledged that regular churchgoers cold lead more abstemious lives, they insisted that they had factored these variants in to the study by examining a control group of equally healthy non-believers. The variation, they said, had made no appreciable difference.

A Church of England spokesperson said: "For some people, the fact that there is a greater power whom we are confident loves us and has our best interests at heart must remove the daily stresses and worries of thoser who do not believe. But of course, faith is not an ant colony: There are probably as many different explanations for why this research has found what it has as there are people who took part."


What has all this got to do with EFL teachers in Turkey, you may well ask?

The point is, many of the "teachers" one has met in Turkey appear to live lives which do not involve a sense of purpose or community. One is not advocating church services as the solution (ghost is agnostic, b.t.w.), but some form of belonging in a group would be in order. Ghost joined sports clubs in Ankara and Antalya to fill the void, but others could join other groups depending on interests.

Needless to say, it was sad to see many EFL teachers in Turkey living a life devoid of purpose or goals in which the months had turned into years, and these individuals progressed so little. Some of these teachers were bitter and sad, because they came to realize that it was too late now to change things around and go for a new career. They were kind of trapped in an English Teaching cycle in which further prospects of promotion were non-existant. They were in essence living day to day, without a sense of purpose, and many had never really succeeded in becoming integrated into the community they lived in. They were, in the best of cases, honorary guests of the country. The EFL treadmill they were on, could not be shut down.
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Faustino



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I concur; a sense of purpose is very important. I know of several peole who've been haer almost a decade, that are living the kind of day to day existence of which you speak. You can see some of them sitting in bars in the afternoon waiting for someone to join them. Somewhere along the line weeks became months became years....

Do you think that a community could exist to help those of us caught in such a situation?

Personally, I've been very lucky to avoid this. OK; I've worked hard, gotten qualifications, gotten the right experience I need to get a good job, but it could have been so very different.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, many studies over many years have show that people who have a sense of purpose and community are happier and more productive, and many studies have shown that people who have a faith and then practice and believe in said faith are more opptomistic, happier and well adjusted as a whole.
Of course, all this is said with great trepidation, since my buddy George W clearly has a faith, a community and would call himself and all his friends "well adjusted". all in the eye of the beholder, I supoze...

And as for EFL teachers wasting thier sorry lives away in bars with nothing to do, haven't you seen The Simpsons lately? Maybe EFL teachers are just more aware that they should be able to make some kind of choices about how they live, and that's what got them going in the first place, or maybe they just thougth they could get rich quick, who knows how Joe TEFler ended up with no life, but soooooo many people who stay at home and live on the same street they were born on have the same problem, just differnt decorations. not just a efl treadmill, every one's treadmill.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 8:42 pm    Post subject: A meaningful life Reply with quote

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TEFler ended up with no life, but soooooo many people who stay at home and live on the same street they were born on have the same problem, just differnt decorations. not just a efl treadmill, every one's treadmill
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True - but at home we have more options than we do in Turkey. In Turkey foreigners can teach English and that is about it. If they have lots of cash they might also invest in a business, but that can be dangerous, even with notarial acts, because there are changing laws, and foreigners are often taken advantage of.

At the end of the day, everyone is responsible for their own well being, and they should prepare several plans, in case they exit Turkey and come back to the "real world."

Ghost's advice would be to get a real skill in a field in which you have a passion or interest. Then you build from there.

In teaching there are too many variables which one cannot dominate, which make future plans somewhat sketchy. It is better to have a sideline to fall back on.

One is talking about "teaching" in Turkey, not the more stable variety of the profession back in countries like Canada, U.S.A., Britain etc...

In Turkey "English teaching" is somewhat hazardous, because the owners of the schools are in it for profit, which means that you may be a very good pedagogue, but if the package you present is not sweet and glossy, then you will be judged accordingly and you will not be of interest to the school. You are basically a commodity to make revenue for the school. If not you walk....this is the reality.

It is a subjective business, because your success depends on the receptiveness (or lack thereof) of the audience (the students) and this can vary quite a bit depending on age, background of the students, and area of the country you work in. A teacher may find success in one area, but be judged a "failure" in another area.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You had me fooled Ghost. From the title I thought it was going to be a positive post. Goodwill to all men and all that. I should know better.
Anyway, isn't this forum a 'community'?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 11:25 am    Post subject: Oh give me a break!! Reply with quote

Yeah nice idea ,down on bended knee and all that bs ,we all need more time in church ,less in the boozer, doesn't need a phd to work that one out .
I think the outside interests would fill that big void in our lives ,but as you know we can't get our act together to even organize an afternoon stroll up a mountain followed by a picnic ,can we ?
The last thing I need is some pompus windbag spouting off about spirtiual inner strength , for christs sake get a life !
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well... if anyone wants to go to my church: Cumhuriyet Cad. 283/6 - Harbiye. We have services in English on Sundays at 11a.m and in Turkish at 4 p.m Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry dmb,
Get real, when have you ever seen a positive post from old ghost. This person could turn any point raised anywhere into a negative. Rolling Eyes
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Faustino



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are plenty of things that we as foreigners can do. Personally, I try to cover all of my bases. What the hell am I on about? Let me explain.

I try to keep ticking over work-wise by setting goals as to what I want to have achieved in a given time frame. This could be in terms of qualifications, profesional development, new job, attending conferences, etc.

I try to manage stress by channelling energy into productive pursuits outside of work. In my case, this means composing and producing dance music.

I try to keep mind and body in shape by exercising and controlling the old booze intake.

As you can see, I've started each sentence with 'try to', although none of these things have required me to sit down and write a list or anything.

I agree that the rut to which we're referring here is that experienced by many millions in our own countries, and not exclusively part of the TEFL experience. Nevertheless, I think it's a shame that there are many who become trapped in a cycle after having made the bold decision to step out of the monotonous grind suffered by their former peers.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The EFL world ıs full of lost souls. Whether goıng to church would save them is another question !
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We're not all messed up or pointlessly wandering lost souls. I feel pretty grounded with a lovely bunch of friends here and around the world from my previous existences (South Africa, London, etc). I have plenty of ever-evolving plans and goals. My education did not stop with my degree. A masters degree is hovering on the horizon. And even without that post grad bit of paper, I am still working in a job I enjoy that is stimulating and doesn't leave me dazed and stressed and drunk at the end of the day.

Do we really need church or are they merely suggesting that balance, contemplation, and community are what we need? I am agnostic so I really cant buy the necessity of going to church to be healthy.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 7:05 pm    Post subject: Belonging Reply with quote

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I am agnostic so I really can`t buy the necessity of going to church to be healthy.


You don`t need church, but everyone (unless you`re suffering from autism or such) needs some sort of social support network system.

The point of the study was to show that people, in general, live longer and more productive lives if they feel part of a community and `celebrate`together. And one can understand from this, that extensions of church in other areas would fill that need.

Some people who come from disfunctional families fill the need by joining `gangs` - which are like a second family.

In far away places, many ex-pats gather in watering holes, and they find that to be a form of therapy. They create their own `celebrations` and rituals, around alcohol, which diminishes inhibition. Often this behaviour, though, can become self destructive....when the slippery slope to alcoholism is reached.

The worst form of punishment for most, is living in isolation. Church has always been a convenient institution for many (even those who did not believe in religion), because it offered a convenient way to get together and be appreciated as a member of the community.

In many parts of North America (small provincial towns) if you do not go to church, you are made to feel like an outsider, and your social possibilities are diminished as a consequence, so some attend more for pragmatic reasons.

When ghost taught French and Social Studies in the Durham Catholic School Board (Whitby, Ontario, 2002), the Principal insisted that all teachers attend Sunday Mass in one of the local churches. If you missed a service, you would hear about it on Monday morning. Ghost developed a hatred of the hypocrisy which permeated that `forced` religious constraint, and will not go back. Basically, the school Principal stated that you could not be a ``good person`` unless you attended church. We all know this not to be true.

The possibilities are unlimited.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 2:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Belonging Reply with quote

[quote="ghost"]
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In far away places, many ex-pats gather in watering holes, and they find that to be a form of therapy. They create their own `celebrations` and rituals, around alcohol, which diminishes inhibition. Often this behaviour, though, can become self destructive....when the slippery slope to alcoholism is reached.

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I've started a knitting circle, PM me for details.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 4:59 pm    Post subject: Arent people who go to church here all spies? Reply with quote

Er wouldnt it be detrimental to our reputations if we all started to go to church? You know, what with all the missionary/ spy connotations involved.
İ agree with Yaramaz as İ now have a good group of friends both yabanci and Turkish and İ dont feel as if theres a void to be filled ( unless we include my bank acc of course-all donations gratefully received). Laughing
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