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peabody
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 Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 10:41 am Post subject: Please donate |
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peabody
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Twisting in the Wind
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Peabody,
So glad to see you're still with us. So glad you weren't scared away. And that using TalkDoc's quote as your signature, now that truly is a streak of genious!  |
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Twisting in the Wind
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| Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 9:28 pm Post subject: Re: Please donate |
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right now to World Vision.
It is horrifying to see footage of Ache.
Please give what you can. |
Just to inform you---not that I'm getting down on you for giving, cos I'm not--I wanted to mention it on another thread, but it sounded too negative. But since you brought them up...World Vision is one of the NGOs with the HIGHEST overhead.They are NOTORIOUS for having high overhead and only a little of the $ gets to disaster vics. When I worked at a refugee camp, oh, WV would fly in and have their photo ops, and then fly out again, back to their plush offices in Monrovia, CA.
How do I know they have plush offices? Because Mr. Twisting worked for their corporate office. He thought, being a Christian and all, it would be nice working for a Christian agency. NOT! They did not honor their contract to him. Fired him without cause, and then had the audacity to call and beg the computer code out of him because the programmers they hired in his stead couldn't figure out what they were doing. My hubby, being a moral man, gave them the code they needed, even tho they had SCRE*ED him royally.
Just our limited experience. I'm sure some of the $ you gave will get to the vics, but there are better orgs to give to with lower overhead, Doctors Without Borders, for instance, not that I want to turn this into the war of the NGOs.  |
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moonraven
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| It's always better to find a way to give directly. As someone who directed an NGO for 5 years back in the beginning of the Reagan Age, I was appalled in meetings with directors of other NGOs to hear folks talking about getting more grants and donations with the priority of raising their own salaries! |
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Twisting in the Wind
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| ....or redecorating their corner offices! |
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Nagoyaguy
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Those in Japan, I would recommend Hope International as a good choice for donations. Their director for Asia is a good man- I know him personally (and his family). At the moment, they are trying to raise money here from the international community to help in relief efforts. Plus, they have 5 aid workers in India still missing.
http://www.hope-international.com/appeal/janemerg05.html |
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Gordon
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| Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 12:19 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks Nagoya guy |
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justcolleen
Joined: 07 Jan 2004
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Location: Egypt, baby!
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| Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 4:21 pm Post subject: Re: Please donate |
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| Twisting in the Wind wrote: |
| Just our limited experience. I'm sure some of the $ you gave will get to the vics, but there are better orgs to give to with lower overhead, Doctors Without Borders, for instance, not that I want to turn this into the war of the NGOs. |
Update: Doctors Without Borders has asked donors to ... stop donating.
Full article:
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Stop Sending us Money, French Aid Group Says
2 hours, 5 minutes ago World - Reuters
PARIS (Reuters) - The medical aid group Medecins Sans Frontiers (Doctors without Borders) urged donors Tuesday to stop sending it money for Asian tsunami victims, saying it had collected enough funds to manage its relief effort there.
In an unusual step, the group's branches in France and Germany said they had 40 million and $27 million respectively, enough to finance emergency medical aid projects they were supporting in Sri Lanka and Indonesia.
Their decision surprised other aid groups and drew criticism that it could undercut an unprecedented wave of private giving to provide relief to the region devastated by the Dec. 26 tsunami which has killed at least 150,000 people.
"It's the first time we are led to take this kind of decision," MSF Director General Pierre Salignon said.
"This might seem to run counter to the mood of general mobilization, but it's a question of honesty toward our donors. We don't want to continue to lobby the public for projects that are already financed," he said in a statement.
A spokesman for MSF's German branch, Aerzte Ohne Grenzen, said it had adopted the same policy.
"What shocks me is that you are taking the risk of pulling the carpet under the feet of other aid organizations. Many groups still need more money," said Jean-Christope Rufin, head of the French aid group Action Contre la Faim (Action against Hunger).
"It's a bit irresponsible. We're all in the same boat in humanitarian aid," Rufin told France 2 television.
Some German agencies said they had no plans to follow suit and privately several said they were shocked by MSF's decision.
"MSF mainly provides emergency aid, whereas Unicef stays on. We build schools, carry out vaccination programs and so on. For us this is just the beginning and that's why we still need donations," said Astrid Prange of Unicef Germany, which has received more than 10 million euros in pledges.
"Our experience is -- and our feeling is -- that people want to give to this or nothing. It's not that they want to give in general," said Oxfam Germany director Paul Bendix.
Some German aid agencies attributed MSF's move to its focus on providing short term aid, which is treated differently for tax purposes under German law on charitable donations than long-term development assistance.
A spokesman for the German Protestant church charity Diakonie Katastrophenhilfe, which has also received 10 million euros in pledges, said most German charities had been careful to broadly frame their aid requests so that they were not legally tied to providing specific assistance in one country.
MSF in France said it was committed to use money donated for South Asia only there and not for other crises.
"If a person calls us to make a donation, we will tell them that these programs are already financed and that they can make a donation for a different crisis," a MSF spokeswoman said. |
I, um, can't help but think this makes a huge statement about this particular organization's lack of greed. Way cool, eh?
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Twisting in the Wind
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Thanks, Colleen.
Gosh, I almost missed your post. Very, very interesting. Makes me WANT to KEEP giving to this group on a regular basis, ya know? |
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shmooj
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| Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 11:27 am Post subject: |
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| Nagoyaguy wrote: |
Those in Japan, I would recommend Hope International as a good choice for donations. Their director for Asia is a good man- I know him personally (and his family). At the moment, they are trying to raise money here from the international community to help in relief efforts. Plus, they have 5 aid workers in India still missing.
http://www.hope-international.com/appeal/janemerg05.html |
Interesting... I know him well too... we must have met somewhere...
... and yes, I would second Hope International as a legit and worthy cause. |
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Gordon
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| Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Another excellent organization is Asia Span International www.asiaspan.ca . Two very close friends work with them in China and they are about to go to Sri Lanka and help out there. |
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Nagoyaguy
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| Smooj, if you are thinking of the man with the initials LS who has 2 teenage sons, we are in the same ball park indeed. |
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peabody
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Twisting in the Wind
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| Oh, that's TERRIBLE, Peabody!!!!! Pls keep us posted as to if they find him! Just read in the paper today--actually a map the LA Times printed that showed the tsunami just, and I mean JUST, missing Australia. I guess it affected currents and wave patterns around the world!!! |
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