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le0n · Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 786

Hi,

What are the thoughts of Western ESL teachers in Indonesia about Schapelle Corbys 20 years?

Indo teach · Joined: 16 May 2005 Posts: 10

Too much media pressure and critiscm on the Indo legal system and government from the Aussies hasn't helped matters.

Has anyone considered why an Aussie would want to be importing mary to a country that sells the stuff at a tenth of the price back home?

Evidently common sense is in equally short measures up in the senior Indo echelons as at street level.

Indo teach

gugelhupf · Joined: 24 Jan 2004 Posts: 575 Location: Jabotabek

Most of the Ozzie 'trial by televeision' case for the defence seems to be that because she's young and pretty (and Australian) she couldn't possibly be guilty. I am shocked and astonished by the xenophobic outpourings of their gutter press. I expected better.

Jreng · Joined: 13 Feb 2005 Posts: 37 Location: uae

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Has anyone considered why an Aussie would want to be importing mary to a country that sells the stuff at a tenth of the price back home?

Evidently common sense is in equally short measures up in the senior Indo echelons as at street level.[/b]

Maybe She brought that stuff for australian people who live in Bali, Of course the price higher than her homev( Many drug dealer in Australia, soo difficult for her to compete).It is easy for Australian people to get drug from other australian than they buy from local drug dealer.

How do you know that stuff at a tenth of the price back home? Are you a drug user or a drug dealer?

If you are drug user or drug dealer, How do you get your drug? From CORBYS ?

basiltherat · Joined: 04 Oct 2003 Posts: 952

while nothing has probably changed within the indonesian 'justice' system since i left in 2000, it is worth noting that this so called system was regarded then as one of the most unjust and corrupt justice systems in the world. Back handers and fat envelopes used to be the name of the game back then and that was even down to street level. Assuming not much has changed, it wud not surprise me (and this is whether or not she was guilty of this crime) if it was a matter of Corby's lawyers or family simply insufficiently paying off those necessary within the system.
I'd be interested in knowing whether the long-timers in Jakarta have heard of any serious clampdowns on corrupt officials. Yudiono has said it would be a top priority of his. Have there been any serious moves in this direction ?
basil

guru · Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Posts: 156 Location: Indonesia

I'm not confident about the legal system here, but now I am emarrased and horrified that Australians have terrorists who planned to kill innocent Indonesians. Shame Shame Shame!!!! Embarassed

Cardinal Synn · Joined: 01 Nov 2004 Posts: 586

I think Jreng should be using the students' forum rather than the teachers' forum.

TEAM_PAPUA · Joined: 24 May 2004 Posts: 1679 Location: HOLE

Jreng · Joined: 13 Feb 2005 Posts: 37 Location: uae

Dear The best teacher in the world,

Are sure that you are an english teacher? (have a Tesol degree or related) Or just a fake teacher, get a job because their skin color.Or a guy who can not get a job in his own country, Willing to work overseas, and get salary 300-1,000 dollars per month.
The salary as low as work at mc donnal.

guruengerish · Joined: 28 Mar 2004 Posts: 424 Location: Australia

Surprisingly, a lot of the better press has been quite restrained and one editorial spelled out carefully the difference in the legal systems.

Some points that stick in my craw are:

How come a bomb terrorist got 2.5 years?

How is it that the Bali judge has NEVER found one of 500 persons on trial not guilty? That's just against the law of averages.

The substance sent to the Embassy was harmless powder, and not a dangerous from the latest reports, but still inexcusable. Funny that the note with it was written in faultless Indonesian.

A reporter wandering around Kuta the night before last Friday's verdict was offered every kind of drug that he's ever heard of.

Cardinal Synn · Joined: 01 Nov 2004 Posts: 586

Chester · Joined: 15 May 2004 Posts: 383 Location: Australia

tommy soeharta, convicted stock jakarta exchange bomber and supreme court judge murderer, son of former dictator, sentenced to 15 years. rumoured to still be globe trotting in his private jet and stil hangimg out at christmas island casino.

Cardinal Synn · Joined: 01 Nov 2004 Posts: 586

okievmax · Joined: 08 Jul 2004 Posts: 10 Location: Oklahoma

Cardinal Synn, that's funny! As to the McD that flies buns in seats instead of selling fries and bun treats, they got bought out by Boeing, I think. Mebbe Jreng was thinking of the fat, female U.S. singer/actress/comedian/whatever. As to the ubiquitous availability of drugs, one of my faves happened in Gili Traw-however-it's-spelled. While walking down main drag one eve after day of diving, basking in the silence of no internal combustion engines (after months in Jakarta!), I was accosted by a couple of young local guys: "You want ecstasy?" "Tidak, no wanita" I joked back. "You want woman?" came his instant reply. Damn. I fully expected to wake up and hear 10,000 engines racing at 10,000 rpm any moment!

ronin · Joined: 22 Feb 2003 Posts: 50 Location: canada

Hey I'm surprised she didn't get death. Ok so let�s say she was set up by people in Australia like she said she was. Did the people setting her up say "hey lets plant thousands of dollars worth of drugs in some random persons surf board bag and hope that when she leaves the airport in Bali that our guy in Indonesia can recognize someone carrying a surf board bag full of thousands of dollars of drugs and approach her in Bali and ask for the drugs, yeah that�s it! A perfect plan!" She�s a naive girl that thought her first world status and looks can get her clearance through a 3rd world small airport with out any problems because she thought she was better then them. Well the only thing I have to say is "have fun! Your 20 year vacation in beautiful Bali has just begun!"