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Boy Wonder

Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 453 Location: Clacton on sea
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 11:30 am Post subject: Record number of resignations in a day. |
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On Friday we had 3 teachers resign in one foul swoop.
That makes 8 resignations since I joined the buffoon clinic 4 months ago.
What I wonder is the record number of resignations in any one day you have encountered in TEFL not including end of contract decisions? |
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Gordon

Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 5309 Location: Japan
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 11:51 am Post subject: |
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| 150 teachers, but those were layoffs. |
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carnac
Joined: 30 Jul 2004 Posts: 310 Location: in my village in Oman ;-)
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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The resignations may have been "foul", but the phrase is a "fell" swoop".
See, for example, http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mfellswoop.html
"Fell, from Old English, means awful, terrible or horrible. The word's stem can also be seen in "felon," which now is mostly used to mean someone who has been convicted of a felony (a serious crime), but which formerly meant one who is terrible, horrible or awful in behavior. The "swoop" is an onomotopoeia, indicating a fast movement. All together, "one fell swoop" means a swift, horrible blow.
"Shakespeare, originator of so many English catchphrases, may have dreamed up this one too. It appears in "Macbeth": "What! all my pretty chickens and their dam/At one fell swoop?" (act IV, scene 3) laments Macduff, upon learning his wife and children have been killed by Macbeth. This appears to be the earliest recorded use of the phrase, although it may have been in common usage before Shakespeare wrote it down.
"It's interesting that "one fell swoop," which originally had such a dire connotation, is now a mild term meaning "all at once." A similar fate has befallen the expression "fey charm." Few people know that "fey" is an old Scottish term meaning (a) fated to die soon, or (b) full of the sense of approaching death (these definitions from the American Heritage Dictionary). So if you say someone has a certain fey charm, you're saying he or she exerts that morbid fascination associated with imminent death."
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dyak

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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Although maybe boy wonder had taken the above knowledge and cunningly changed fell to foul in order to express his disgust at this cull of teachers? |
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shmooj

Joined: 11 Sep 2003 Posts: 1758 Location: Seoul, ROK
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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| I like "foul swoop" - kills two buzzards with one stone |
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spidey
Joined: 29 Jun 2004 Posts: 382 Location: Web-slinging over Japan...
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 12:10 am Post subject: |
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16 in 1 day decided not to renew their contracts for the following year. 25 had resigned by the end of the year. All due to poor management and unscrupulous behavior on the part of the administration.
Not a good track record. They're still feeling the aftermath 5 years later.
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GambateBingBangBOOM
Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 2021 Location: Japan
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 1:40 am Post subject: |
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| carnac wrote: |
The resignations may have been "foul", but the phrase is a "fell" swoop".
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North Americans normally say "foul swoop". Of course, generally North Americans say "I could care less" when they (/we- although I personally don't do this one) mean " I couldn't care less" and more than half of us, based on population counts, have an aversion to the letter "u" in words like colour etc as well as many other spelling issues.
Ignorant? Or just quirky? You decide!
I'm sure if the OP were to repost this in the Korea forum, one of the largest numbers would be from the EPIK programme (but that's a national programme, not a single school). |
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Roger
Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 9138
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 2:13 am Post subject: |
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To put that "record number" of resignations into context boy wonder ought to have added the reasons - if known - and the location of his school.
Maybe they got poached by a competitor? |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 2:34 am Post subject: |
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| Maybe they got poached by a competitor? |
Is that common in China? (I presume boy Wonder is in China) |
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ls650

Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 3484 Location: British Columbia
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 4:17 am Post subject: |
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| GambateBingBangBOOM wrote: |
| carnac wrote: |
The resignations may have been "foul", but the phrase is a "fell" swoop".
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North Americans normally say "foul swoop". |
As a "North American", I've never heard "foul swoop" before - but I've heard/read "fell swoop" many times. |
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Sheep-Goats
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 4:34 am Post subject: |
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| GambateBingBangBOOM wrote: |
| carnac wrote: |
The resignations may have been "foul", but the phrase is a "fell" swoop".
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North Americans normally say "foul swoop". Of course, generally North Americans say "I could care less" when they (/we- although I personally don't do this one) mean " I couldn't care less" and more than half of us, based on population counts, have an aversion to the letter "u" in words like colour etc as well as many other spelling issues.
Ignorant? Or just quirky? You decide! |
Actually, we don't say "foul swoop." We say fell swoop. If people are actually saying foul swoop then its a new development without root in the part of the states I'm from (midwest -- the foundation block of "American" English).
We don't spell colour with a u because, due to educational reforms in the 1950s in America that didn't occur in England, "color" is the correct spelling of that word in America. Hence, some 99% of us would know not to spell it "colour." |
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Brooks
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 5:42 am Post subject: |
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1950s?
Nope, better go back farther. It because of Webster`s dictionary that Americans spell color without the `u`. |
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Cardinal Synn
Joined: 01 Nov 2004 Posts: 586
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:30 am Post subject: |
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| Sheep-Goats wrote: |
| We don't spell colour with a u because, due to educational reforms in the 1950s in America that didn't occur in England, "color" is the correct spelling of that word in America. Hence, some 99% of us would know not to spell it "colour." |
You what, mate?
Educational reforms that didn't take place in England (you mean the UK of course)? So British English, with its "u" in words such as colour, honour & neighbour is an "un reformed" language? Very interesting use of "reforms" there. Infact, not really interesting, just rubbish. |
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Boy Wonder

Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 453 Location: Clacton on sea
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 11:31 am Post subject: |
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Jesus.H. you lot......can't you answer the question.....
I didn't intend this to be an examination of phrases by anoraks and TEFL geeks.....foul swoop or fell swoop...I couldn't give a rats ar$%!!
The question was about resigs......before the end of contract and not inc lay-offs!
BTW Roger I am in Italy working for Inlingua and those that left on Friday did so in disgust and out of pocket.
I repeat ...can anybody better this record.....and re the anoraks.. keep your geekism to other threads please. |
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Ben Round de Bloc
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 1946
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 12:09 pm Post subject: Re: Record number of resignations in a day. |
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| Boy Wonder wrote: |
| What I wonder is the record number of resignations in any one day you have encountered in TEFL not including end of contract decisions? |
Where I work, the answer to your question is one for the record number of resignations in any one day. Turn-over is very low, probably averaging one part-time teacher every year and a half or two years at most. During the almost 10 years that I've been working there, I can recall only one teacher who resigned while under contract rather than finishing her contract for the semester, and that was because of health reasons. |
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