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tooker
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 Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 8:08 am Post subject: best place for a newbie? |
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| Im looking to do a tesol with tefl international at some point this year(it will be in thailand, vietnam or egypt, and after this I hoope to find a job teaching english. My question is where is a good place to start? I dont have a degree but I would like to teach for at least a few years. What places would I have a reasonably high chance of finding a job? I was thinking maybe vietnam, cambodia or Yemen, but I dont really know what the situation is for someone like me who has no degree, will it seriously hinder me? |
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Talkdoc
Joined: 03 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:46 am Post subject: Re: best place for a newbie? |
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| tooker wrote: |
I dont have a degree but I would like to teach for at least a few years.
...but I dont really know what the situation is for someone like me who has no degree, will it seriously hinder me? |
I don't know what the hiring requirements are for the countries you mentioned (this is the China Job-related Posts forum) but in China you need a minimum of a bachelor's degree and two years of teaching experience to legitimately qualify for the status of foreign expert (which is required to obtain the Z-Visa).
Many unscrupulous private English language schools will forge a degree for you if you don't have one in order to apply for your Z-Visa (others will simply encourage you to come here on a business F-Visa and work illegally). But when you get into bed with the devil, you should expect the worse. Expect to be treated like chattel.
Invariably (in the past), a response like mine has been followed by several others from those who will tell you that they don't have a degree nor did they have any prior teaching experience before accepting a teaching position in China and now they are as happy as little cherrystone clams earning unsolicited raises and just loved by all. This is the rare exception, not the norm.
| tooker wrote: |
| My question is where is a good place to start? |
The answer is college. Then, in the absence of teaching experience, a TEFL course would be very helpful.
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Voldermort
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Hehe, I came here without a degree or TEFL, and I had no teaching experience whatsoever. I was hired though, and I was 'obtain' the legal permits. But I was totally screwed over. Only corrupt little scumbags can 'obtain' things, and the same corrupt little scumbags will take you for all you have.
Get a degree man and TEFL, do things the right way. |
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hesterprynne
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| Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 11:50 pm Post subject: where |
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| I have heard that it is easy to find work in vietnam. about cambodia- a friend of mine who went there said that social conditions there are disturbing. for example, there are many people who have been made amputees because of war. |
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