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To the ladies...and a few guys if you feel like it
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nicyvesweet



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 1:43 am    Post subject: To the ladies...and a few guys if you feel like it Reply with quote

I read some old posts and saw that across the board, it suck to not find clothing in your size. I started to wonder, how often, if at all, women just bought men's clothes. I'm occaisionally a fan of adrogeny (I'm 5'10 and sometimes, I just want pants that are long enough), so I'm curious to know how well that'll float in Japan. Have any women bought men's clothes since Japanese clothing is so tiny? Why is it possible to buy clothes that fit in other Asian countries--What's the deal with Japan? I really want to know the answers to the last one.
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Lynn



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I bought men's clothes in Japan at "uni-qlo" It's kinda like a Gap or Old Navy.

I have Japanese friends who can't even find clothes that fit in Japan. There seems to be only one size which is a Japanese nine. I think that is a 3 or 5 in US. I also had a friend from Hawaii who was a size 0 and she said that she also had trouble finding clothes that were small enough. It seems Japan does not like to make clothes outside that covetted "Nine size". I think it has a lot to do with ideals. Japanese women are expected to be a perfect size 9.
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Nismo



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lynn wrote:
Yes, I bought men's clothes in Japan at "uni-qlo" It's kinda like a Gap or Old Navy.


Uni-qlo is a shortened title for "Unisex Clothes". I'm not joking, that's where the title came from. It is like Gap clothing, only you can find much more interesting clothes at Uni-Qlo, but some of the clothes are just total rubbish and cheap. I mainly buy ratty t-shirts, boxers, and socks from there. I have never found a pair of pants in Japan that I would/could wear. They are so freaking tight. I just buy clothes from Pacsun.com and have my family ship them to me.
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uniqlo is a great place to find cheap clothes. You can get real bargains for sweaters, sweats and shirts. Pretty casual types of clothing, a real change from the formal clothing stores with 100 varieties of black/navy suits.
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nicyvesweet



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This Uniqlo sounds interesting. Is it a chain all over Japan? Is it a "just basics" store? Can I get colorful fun things there or just the standard pair of khakis and socks?


Edit to add new question: Do the Japanese frown upon foreigners following Japanese trends (i.e. techno geisha, whatever the picture below depicts)?




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Lynn



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as you didn't dress like that to work! haha!

I don't think they frown upon it if you dressed like that for weekends. I was in Japan as a student in the 90s and I wore "loose socks". And when I was in my 20s I wore mini skirts and boots. At the time, dying your hair ash blonde was really hot. That was one trend I did *not* follow. My hair is naturally dark dark brown.
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The G-stringed Avenger



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the Tokyoites:
Go to Zenmall in Shibuya - it's across the road from ABC Mart. Lots of big sizes there, for men and women. A bit pricey but hey, that's Japan.
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Lindsay



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it may be difficult to find women's pants long enough if you are 5'10". most pant sizes in japan go by cm's instead of inches. the biggest sizes i see available at most stores are 70 or 73 cm, which is 27.3 and 28.5 inches. for me, i am 5'4" so it is perfect, no hemming needed in japan!
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nicyvesweet



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lindsay wrote:
it may be difficult to find women's pants long enough if you are 5'10". most pant sizes in japan go by cm's instead of inches. the biggest sizes i see available at most stores are 70 or 73 cm, which is 27.3 and 28.5 inches. for me, i am 5'4" so it is perfect, no hemming needed in japan!


nah, i tend to go for 32" inseams. i can get away with a 30", but I like the option of having my pants go under my feet. i'm strange. Wink
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Lindsay



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oops! i was talking about 70 -73 cm as a waist circumference! i have no idea what the lengths are in japan, all i know is that i have yet to hem a pair of pants. sorry, i wasn't very clear!
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nicyvesweet



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

waist size, ey? sounds like a good time for me to lose a bit of weight. Razz

edit to add: Exactly what do you guys call expensive for clothes? I keep hearing Japanese clothes are pricey, but I usually pay 40 USD for pants, up to 40 USD on a shirt, up to 200 on coats, 120 for boots, 80 for shoes (unless it's a sandal), 100 on a blazer (these are max prices). Is it more than that?
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure doesn't have to be.
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guest of Japan



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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edit to add: Exactly what do you guys call expensive for clothes? I keep hearing Japanese clothes are pricey, but I usually pay 40 USD for pants, up to 40 USD on a shirt, up to 200 on coats, 120 for boots, 80 for shoes (unless it's a sandal), 100 on a blazer (these are max prices). Is it more than that?


The clothes that you buy for those prices in the US will probably be about double that in Japan.

Also, Uniqlo quality is lower than the Gap. The store is trying to bring in more high quality stuff, but the prices jump considerably for that.

There are a lot of sales in Japan. If you find something you like, chances are it will be on sale in a few weeks.
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David W



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

guest of Japan wrote:
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edit to add: Exactly what do you guys call expensive for clothes? I keep hearing Japanese clothes are pricey, but I usually pay 40 USD for pants, up to 40 USD on a shirt, up to 200 on coats, 120 for boots, 80 for shoes (unless it's a sandal), 100 on a blazer (these are max prices). Is it more than that?


The clothes that you buy for those prices in the US will probably be about double that in Japan.

Also, Uniqlo quality is lower than the Gap. The store is trying to bring in more high quality stuff, but the prices jump considerably for that.

There are a lot of sales in Japan. If you find something you like, chances are it will be on sale in a few weeks.

Uniqlo's stuff is quite good quality. My mother, a dressmaker by trade, was quite impressed. Good enough for me.
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nicyvesweet



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

David W wrote:
guest of Japan wrote:
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edit to add: Exactly what do you guys call expensive for clothes? I keep hearing Japanese clothes are pricey, but I usually pay 40 USD for pants, up to 40 USD on a shirt, up to 200 on coats, 120 for boots, 80 for shoes (unless it's a sandal), 100 on a blazer (these are max prices). Is it more than that?


The clothes that you buy for those prices in the US will probably be about double that in Japan.

Also, Uniqlo quality is lower than the Gap. The store is trying to bring in more high quality stuff, but the prices jump considerably for that.

There are a lot of sales in Japan. If you find something you like, chances are it will be on sale in a few weeks.

Uniqlo's stuff is quite good quality. My mother, a dressmaker by trade, was quite impressed. Good enough for me.


Do you have any idea as to the availability of fabrics and patterns? I've actually been toying with the idea of learning to sew.
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