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samd



Joined: 30 Jan 2005
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Location: England

PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 12:41 pm    Post subject: Help a China Idiot Reply with quote

I'm looking for pastures new after a year in Jakarta. China looks OK and my choices are limited thanks to the lack of a degree. The thing is I know nothing about the place, ie. good places to live and work for a year. I'm looking for a slightly less manic existance than in Jakarta, somewhere I can actually walk around without being asphixiated by the traffic and pollution. A bit of greenery wouldn't go amiss too.

Any thoughts?
Cheers
Sam
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ResiWorld



Joined: 08 Dec 2004
Posts: 283
Location: 10,000 miles from hangzhou

PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Green pasteurs? rolling hills? Crystal river water? . China is as polluted as the inside of coal furnace. The green rolling hills are peppered with litter. You can make a living off collecting the plastic bottles that are floating in the canals in Suzhou.
Given this place is fairly relaxed, you don't work too much. You don't need a degree, but it definitely isn't a mistake to have one. You'll be able to pull a job in the sticks miles from civilization, have a dodgy laoban, and breath the air from the local tire plant. But please don't come here thinking that China is God's gift to the world.
Good Luck with your decision.
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dwhansen



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Posts: 67
Location: qingdao

PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 10:05 pm    Post subject: kidding or not? Reply with quote

Dude, nooooo. Everywhere I have gone in China is environmentally tragic. I hope you get some postings though from places I haven't seen but have heard they are nice...Hainan, Yunnan, and way out west, depending on how peaceful you want it. After a year in J though, you better stay out of the north and west because of the a, ahem, the a winter-like conditions.
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struelle



Joined: 16 May 2003
Posts: 2372
Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 12:45 am    Post subject: Re: Help a China Idiot Reply with quote

If you survived a year in Jakarta, most cities in China shouldn't be a problem for you, but I wouldn't be looking for 'green pastures' as the other posted noted. Generally speaking, the haggle and tout factor is less in China, but you do need to be careful when signing contracts. I'd suggest reading a page or two of previous threads on the China forums to get a general idea of what's going on.

Steve
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dajiang



Joined: 13 May 2004
Posts: 663
Location: Guilin!

PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go to Yangshuo, Guangxi (the tourist place)...

Great place to hang out for a few months.
Plenty of teaching possibilities.
Excellent scenery, cheap place to live, lots of stuff to do, pleasant climate... you name it.

Seeya
Dajiang
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rickinbeijing



Joined: 22 Jan 2005
Posts: 252
Location: Beijing, China

PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 3:48 am    Post subject: Welcome to China! Reply with quote

Rick said, somewhat tongue-in-cheek. Never mind some of the sour puss posters here. Not all of China is so polluted and they forget London isn't exactly clean itself. I'd recommend Hangzhou for gardens and lakes, or anywhere in Yunnan. If cold isn't an issue, Harbin or Urumqi works too. A degree is a necessity for work in colleges and universities but not for English language centers or tutoring business execs. If you speak plainly and enunciate well, it shouldn't be a big problem. If they're hesitant, offer to do a demo lesson for free. That works for some. Stress prior experience in EFL, of course. Good luck!
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