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PKB
Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Posts: 88 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:20 pm Post subject: Pale blue shirts? |
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I found this in a TEFL cert. FAQ:
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For observation and teaching practice, men should wear dark blue or black trousers and pale blue shirts, whilst ladies should wear pale blue blouses and dark blue or black skirts or trousers. |
What's the deal with pale blue shirts and blouses? Is that really a requirement for teachers in Thailand. Not that this is a problem, I was just wondering why pale blue? |
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Placebo

Joined: 19 Nov 2004 Posts: 80 Location: Bangkok
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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Good question, PKB!
There have been a lot of controversial debates regarding this issue and I'm happy somebody finally is brave enough to mention this in this forum.
By Thai law, all foreign teachers are required to wear pale blue shirts in their first year of teaching. After completing their probational period and depending on their evaluation they are then allowed to wear the traditional dark blue shirt.
Teachers who do not pass the probational period at the first time need to wear white shirts until they completed the extended probational period. (I was always wondering why most English teachers I saw on the street were wearing white shirts. Now I know....)
Hope this helps! |
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Sheep-Goats
Joined: 16 Apr 2004 Posts: 527
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 2:06 am Post subject: |
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There's no Thai law requiring you to wear a certain colored shirt! Some folks will fall for that kind of scarcasm, be careful.
The only color mandate here is an implicit rather than explicit one, and it applies only to university faculty -- white shirts are preferred. This is simply because it shows you're in harmony with the student body, who are required (as undergrads) to wear a uniform which includes a white top. But many faculty memebers at some universities don't worry that much about this.
Many schools here, however, do have a uniform or set of strictish dress guidelines. My school, for example, requires white shirts on Monday along with the school-issed tie -- but on other days it's up to you, so long as you're wearing a shirt, tie, and dress pants. I imagine most schools have a similar set of rules -- with stricter rules being the exception rather than the norm.
Beware that in every country around the globe and adminstrator's opinion of you will be based 90% or so on your appearance alone. So it's worth it to kowtow in this reguard if you plan to stick around at all. |
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kenkannif
Joined: 07 Apr 2004 Posts: 550
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 3:58 am Post subject: |
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^ Yeah no law for blue shirts (although I had to think about it for a while).
LoL, nice wind up Placebo! |
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PKB
Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Posts: 88 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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Specifying dress shirts makes perfect sense, specifying a white dress shirt makes sense, but specifically mentioning "pale blue"' struck me as an unusual recommendation/requirement. I didn't know if it reflected the FAQ writers aesthetic tastes or actually had some cultural or professional significance. I have not seen this stated elsewhere, however. I am assuming that a white button down is acceptable. Not that this is really important, I was just curious. Thanks. |
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Placebo

Joined: 19 Nov 2004 Posts: 80 Location: Bangkok
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 2:48 am Post subject: |
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Alright, alright... I was only joking!
Didn't mean to ridicule you or your question but if they tell you to wear a pale blue shirt then just do it.
Some things in Thailand are just straight out weird and unexplainable...
As Sheep-Goats already said, you can never go wrong with a white shirt. |
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Sheep-Goats
Joined: 16 Apr 2004 Posts: 527
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:24 am Post subject: |
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PKB wrote: |
Specifying dress shirts makes perfect sense, specifying a white dress shirt makes sense, but specifically mentioning "pale blue"' struck me as an unusual recommendation/requirement. I didn't know if it reflected the FAQ writers aesthetic tastes or actually had some cultural or professional significance. I have not seen this stated elsewhere, however. I am assuming that a white button down is acceptable. Not that this is really important, I was just curious. Thanks. |
White shirts are good for school situations, where pale blue will be in-line enough for an interview. However, if you show up for a business English class wearing a white shirt it will remind them of their school days -- and since they're all grown up important buisness people now (in their own minds), business class attire is typically more colorful. Pale blue being the safest color of colored shirt (almost as traditional as white, but just outside of the school-uniform zone) might have something to do with its selection in that context.
And it might be that the person who wrote that was tired of making general suggestions and having people show up wearing a chartruse vest. |
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bluffer

Joined: 21 Dec 2004 Posts: 138 Location: Back in the real world.
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 8:58 am Post subject: |
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what site was that from ?
I dont own a white shirt at all. For me it makes no sense in such a dirty polluted city as Bangkok where 1 minute after leaving the apartment with a nice clean new shirt I rub against a wall to avoid a car and then find I have a lovely grey dirt streak along a sleeve or back or front.
4 shades of blue and one sort of rust redish / pinkish for me. ( or is that chartruse? ) |
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Gluestick
Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Posts: 13 Location: Samut Prakan, Thailand
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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I kinda like my white shirts. |
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isanity
Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Posts: 179
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 3:59 am Post subject: |
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Blue shirts, because blue whiteboard markers. Duh.  |
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mr.bojangles

Joined: 13 Dec 2004 Posts: 58
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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YIKES! leaving NZ where black is quite common to Thailand. I guess I will be boiling... |
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joe beets
Joined: 11 Apr 2005 Posts: 37
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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 3:12 am Post subject: |
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^Wear all black and folks will think you're in mourning.
Outward appearances are huge here, and it's frighteningly easy to send the wrong message.
Not only won't you be cool, you won't look all that cool either.
Bring one - in case someone - you know...
Leave the rest.
jb |
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