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Longing for Nippon
Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Posts: 49
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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:32 pm Post subject: Rough Guide New Edition |
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Hi,
I noticed that the Rough Guide series has brought out a new edition of the the Japan guide. The previous edition was very good and i am tempted to get this latest edition too. Has anyone read this new version? is it worth it? any valuable updates or additions? I am not really a Lonely Planet fan so would like to stick with the Rough Guide. |
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Brooks
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 1369 Location: Sagamihara
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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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the previous one got an award.
I have the first edition from 1999 and I found it lacking in some things.
I wish it would have covered Kobe and Osaka more, as well as Yokohama.
But I will give it a look the next time I am in a bookstore. |
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rossiter joe
Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Posts: 25 Location: Gunma, Japan
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 3:25 am Post subject: |
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Haven`t seen the Rough Guide, but I was disappointed with the Lonely Planet Japan for having no information on Gunma Prefecture (and not too much on Tochigi apart from Nikko). What gives? |
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Brooks
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 1369 Location: Sagamihara
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 3:47 am Post subject: |
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yeah, Lonely Planet skips parts of Japan.
I myself wanting to see something on Gumma in that book (about Kusatsu onsen), but they don`t have anything. |
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Gordon

Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 5309 Location: Japan
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 7:16 am Post subject: |
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I haven't seen the newest Rough Guide, but the previous edition is very good and much better than any of the Lonely Planets. Does LP ever update or go where they recommend? |
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Brooks
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 1369 Location: Sagamihara
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 7:22 am Post subject: |
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the newer Lonely Planet guide came out a year or two ago.
I think there is a monk or Buddhist priest on the cover.
What I found odd is that the newer guide was much shorter than the previous one. |
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Gordon

Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 5309 Location: Japan
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 7:24 am Post subject: |
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Brooks wrote: |
the newer Lonely Planet guide came out a year or two ago.
I think there is a monk or Buddhist priest on the cover.
What I found odd is that the newer guide was much shorter than the previous one. |
I have the newest LP, but I don't think the edition was updated other than the colourful maps and coverpage. |
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Brooks
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 1369 Location: Sagamihara
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 7:27 am Post subject: |
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well, maybe they just cut stuff instead. |
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nicyvesweet
Joined: 21 Dec 2004 Posts: 90
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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Which of the publications does cover Osaka? LP or RG? |
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Gordon

Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 5309 Location: Japan
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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nicyvesweet wrote: |
Which of the publications does cover Osaka? LP or RG? |
Both, would be really terrible if they left something out as big as Osaka  |
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Longing for Nippon
Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Posts: 49
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 12:21 am Post subject: |
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The Rough Guide does cover Osaka but just gives details about the attractions. Osaka-jo, USJ etc. Skims over Umeda and Minami. It gives good listings for restaurants, bars and hotels. Osaka isnt really a tourist destination so Kyoto takes up much of the Kansai chapter. Not sure about the LP. |
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Gordon

Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 5309 Location: Japan
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 7:51 am Post subject: |
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Longing for Nippon wrote: |
The Rough Guide does cover Osaka but just gives details about the attractions. Osaka-jo, USJ etc. Skims over Umeda and Minami. It gives good listings for restaurants, bars and hotels. Osaka isnt really a tourist destination so Kyoto takes up much of the Kansai chapter. Not sure about the LP. |
LP is also pretty skimpy on Osaka. For accomodations, they recommend staying in Kyoto instead. Have to admit, I prefer Kyoto over Osaka and accomodation is cheaper too. |
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Brooks
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 1369 Location: Sagamihara
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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Gordon, what do you like about the Rough Guide?
in my experience, I can find slighly cheaper hotels in Osaka. I can find a twin room for less than 8,000 yen in different parts of Osaka. |
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melirae
Joined: 26 Feb 2004 Posts: 145 Location: Korea
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Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 12:07 am Post subject: |
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Of all the guides I looked at before buying one, I found that LP did have the most detail about Osaka, albeit a skimpy amount. The Rough Guide appealed to me more, but I didn't want to buy a guide that was published in 1999. Once you are in Osaka, the tourist offices (the one in OCAT for example) have tons of info that is up to date, so they are a much better resource. My old roommate had Japan guides by about 8 different publishers and all seemed really lacking in info about Osaka. |
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Longing for Nippon
Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Posts: 49
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Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 3:03 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, Osaka is really over looked as a tourist destination in the guide books. Its crazy really considering it's the 2nd largest city after the Tokyo/Yokohama conurbation. It has a lot to offer and is the best place to actually live in my opinion. The guide books focus on short term visitors so the esl teachers need are not considered when writing these books. The Rough Guide is great when going on day trips or long weekends. Maybe its a cultural thing that i prefer the RG. The LP is very americanized and being a Brit I dont take to it. |
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