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ironclay
Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 45
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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 9:10 am Post subject: Wouldn't this affect the kids????????? |
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I�ve been teaching in this private mess called school for 2 months now, I�m not gonna name it
Coz I�m planning to split as soon as I get my passport back..
I�m seriously worried about the kids. They have a new teacher every other week.
The school is crap they don�t deliver shit�.so teachers flow in and out at an incredible rate
the kids are experiencing a serious chain reaction of falling in love and breaking up.
Just when they think they finally got a teacher who can last, and boom the guy splits..
Anytime a new teacher steps in the class, she/he�s flooded with
Questions about what happened to the former���..
And the school doesn�t even bother to inform them or the parents about the change
U can see the disappointment on their faces.
So it all comes down to this�.U HAVE TO REALLY WORK YOUR ASS OFF TO
MAKE THEM LIKE YOU, coz u know that they�re not trusting u.
So I�m just wondering if this won�t affect them emotionally in their future relationships or sth.
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tradinup
Joined: 13 Nov 2004 Posts: 132 Location: Shenzhen, China
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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:00 am Post subject: |
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Are you talking about kindergarten or what? Your writing is... unique.
I'm a kindy teacher too and I can tell you, you're right!
But then what? You don't ask if there is a solution or not, but if you did, I would say that there isn't one.
Such a school will possibly ruin its reputation and then become financially insolvent, and so the dog will die... Darwinism is the only solution to some schools. But often poorly-managed schools in China don't go away, because well, the Chinese will take what they can get. |
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Roger
Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 9138
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 10:22 am Post subject: |
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Maybe something wrong with those teachers? Since you have lasted two months, during which every one of them quit or was terminated within 8 days... |
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jg
Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 1263 Location: Ralph Lauren Pueblo
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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I felt that same way too: sorry for the little 'uns. They were so adorable and nice to me too! I guess like tradinup said, they have to take what they can get in China.
Sometimes I feel like even when I do my best, the industry as a whole is so sketchy, in so many ways... it kinda brings me down. Lately I even wonder about having made teaching my career! I never had those doubts before... maybe its this gray winter...  |
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Jolly

Joined: 12 Apr 2004 Posts: 202
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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tradinup wrote: |
Are you talking about kindergarten or what? Your writing is... unique.
I'm a kindy teacher too and I can tell you, you're right!
But then what? You don't ask if there is a solution or not, but if you did, I would say that there isn't one.
Such a school will possibly ruin its reputation and then become financially insolvent, and so the dog will die... Darwinism is the only solution to some schools. But often poorly-managed schools in China don't go away, because well, the Chinese will take what they can get. |
A bit off the subject, but you know what really burns me up? It's when schools lower their standards for kindergarten teahers! A kindergarten teacher is the MOST important teacher in the school! I won't write an essay here saying why. It should be obvious.
Why are kindergarten teachers in China (and even in Western countries) looked upon as something less than "real teachers?" There's an ad now on Dave's for foreign teachers. The requirements for kindergarten is only a high school education, and the pay is less than the teachers for the higher grades. The ad makes a point at saying this! It really makes me sick. I feel like writing to that school and telling them just what I think!
Since you're a kindergarten teacher, do you have any thoughts on this? I'm not teaching kindergarten now, but I once did and may again. |
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ChinaMovieMagic
Joined: 02 Nov 2004 Posts: 2102 Location: YangShuo
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 9:20 am Post subject: |
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Yes...it can be a Karmic Krime (baoying)
Mental/emotional scars to kindy-children, due to English-learning pressure
and Behavioristic techniques
IMAGINE: A kindy bringing together foreign (English speaking/learning)kids and Chinese kids...in a Chinese-English communication/learning environment.
This is one of my New Year's goals. |
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cheekygal

Joined: 04 Mar 2003 Posts: 1987 Location: China, Zhuhai
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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Jolly wrote: |
A bit off the subject, but you know what really burns me up? It's when schools lower their standards for kindergarten teachers! A kindergarten teacher is the MOST important teacher in the school! I won't write an essay here saying why. It should be obvious. |
I am a kindergarten teacher. Seems like the *fates* want me to stay so (it will be 10 years since I started teaching kindergartens and over 3 of them in China. I am qualified to teach any age group and I did it all the while but toddlers prevailed!)
As for the pay - it depends on the management (I am talking about Western teachers). Kindergartens and companies working with kindergartens make quite a lot of money out of foreign teachers teaching for them. But some of the places don't really care for the knowledge foreign teacher provides: they usually have Chinese teachers practicing over and over with them; and foreign teachers are hired just because it is in *fashion* aka important for the kindergarten's *face* and for the sake of correct pronunciation. That is why many foreign teachers working for companies which work with kindergartens have to teach few kindergartens at a time. For such purposes they don't need to have any college/University degree.
But at the same time, I am surprised that there could possibly be such add, mentioned above: according to the recent laws in China, foreigners who are being hired as English teachers MUST have some college degree. I remember in Qingdao my previous company had a problem with getting Z visa for a teacher who just graduated from high school and came over to teach for our company. Brilliant girl and a great teacher, I must say, but the authorities didn't care for it much till an ESL certificate was provided. |
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Roger
Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 9138
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 2:33 am Post subject: |
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Jolly made a very valid point about the lack of recognition of a specialised discipline called 'kindergarten teaching'.
In fact, it shouldn't even be called 'teaching' because at kindergarten level you DON'T TEACH. Or at least you don't terach the way they do at primary school level.
In some western countries, kindergartens employ specially trained staff. Their job is a whole lot more comprehensive than the job of an English teacher is: looking after and supervising toddlers, feeding them, being constantly aware of their health state, streamlining them into a homogeneous, harmonious group - those are extremely demanding chores that few college graduates with no kindergarten training can perform, I assure you of that.
What's more, the kindergarten professional is dealing with intellectually under-developed human beings that are still grappling with the concept of "learning": they have to learn how to learn, and at primary school you can see the differences between those who learnt it under an empathising kindergarten teacher or an insentient one.
It took the advanced societies of Europe some two centuries to arrive at the current level of understanding; in China they are still at ground zero in this regard. The Chinese don't understand the concept of 'motor skills', and they pay token attention to the attention span deficit of five-year olds.
For me, it is always a huge privilege to get Chinese preschoolers to internalise basic English - but only so long as I get it my way. And this is rare since Chinese parents immediately will query your wisdom, and your employer will fall by the wayside in the quest for those royally high tuition fees that pay for a token white-faced English "teacher". |
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writpetition
Joined: 13 Dec 2004 Posts: 213
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 4:39 am Post subject: |
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So, Ironclay, are you any wiser now? I mean you started a thread with a comment, perhaps, hoping to share some of your pains, perhaps to let off some steam and to obtain some comfort. Did you get any? if not, see the other thread started by Passion in Teaching...some cold comfort there! |
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