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English venacular that drives me mad.
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senor boogie woogie



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 11:46 pm    Post subject: English venacular that drives me mad. Reply with quote

Hola!

The following terminology drives me crazy.

1.) Using verbs as nouns. This is a new concept. For example, calling a winter blanket a "throw" or a flour tortilla with food inside rolled up a "wrap".

2.) Words that people make smaller by speaking. "Veggies" for vegetables. Many years ago, I worked in a hotel where registration cards were called "REG CARDS". "Carb" for carbohydrates.

3.) People in a trade who use their own jargon than use the simple common words.

4.) Calling the United States, "The States".

5.) "Hanging out", such as "Hey, we need to hang out sometime". My mind reels me and the person dangling on the end of a rope talking about the weather.

6.) Computer jargon (see three). Especially the words BLOG and BLOGGER. I think BLOG sounds like vomit, " I drank too much last night and blogged on my shoes". SPAM mail.

7.) Queue. The word is called line.

8.) Spelling words like neighbor, color and flavor with a u after the o. Spelling "center, "centre".

9.) "Tongue in cheek".

10.) Writers who use the word "well" like this, "China is....well....cold." It's as if the writer is apologizing to its reader.

11.) Internet acronyms such as LOL, AFAIK, IANAL, WAG, plus many others in the same vain. I like to read message boards and it is annoying to see a new one of these, and I have to either ask the person what the hell it means or have to waste my time researching the meaning myself.

12.) Lusicious.

13.) "Maths" instead of Mathmatics. Maths is incorrect because Math is an uncountable noun.

14.) THE PROHIBITION IN WRITING IN ALL CAPS. I have never understood why people dislike this. Some tell me it's because I am yelling. Yelling?

senor
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Guy Courchesne



Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure you'll get a number of complaints from the Brits cruising the forum on maths and queue.

I note rather dryly that such phenoms in English are what keep us employed abroad! Laughing Thats...well...my take on it.

and that's a wrap..cut!
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Roger



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, he won't get flak for his inconsiderate opinionatedness; just a friendly bit of advice: practise (with an 'S') the tolerance you yank demand from others for your own parochial English.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing

Why, the wonderful flavoUrs of English do allow use to organiSe and practiSe different things for lessons (but not in maths) every day. Such a coloUrful, neighboUrly sort you are, Left-tenant Roger.

All in jolly good fun. Very Happy
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

senor,

You have a right to your opinion and feelings, but may I just say that most of what you object to is commonly used? Don't like it? Not much you can do unless you have a time machine. Try to let more important matters come to the forefront and tackle them instead.
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Will.



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Bogie Woogie,

How do you write 4 in Usanian? or lout, dour, pour, flour ...you have spelt that one right!
Court, courtesy, aloud,

Proud, flounder foundering around...

I am sure all these words wold be better off without 'U'
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valley_girl



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 1:45 pm    Post subject: Re: English venacular that drives me mad. Reply with quote

senor boogie woogie wrote:


The following terminology drives me crazy.

4.) Calling the United States, "The States".



Oh my...don't come to Canada if this bothers you. We Canucks often refer to our neighbours to the south with this 'vernacular'. Cool
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valley_girl



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 1:47 pm    Post subject: Re: English venacular that drives me mad. Reply with quote

senor boogie woogie wrote:



8.) Spelling words like neighbor, color and flavor with a u after the o. Spelling "center, "centre".



As I stated previously, don't come to Canada. Laughing
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, at the risk of getting flamed, I'll bite.
I agree with senor, the abbreviated versions sound ugly to me.
'Ave' instead of avenue, for example.
And the flat 'a' of that group of Canadians who can't say 'ah' as in drama. Ungrammatical reductions "Whaddaya got?" and "Didja eat yet?"
And, EH?!
All this local weirdness provides for one or two fun lessons for immigrants.

Maybe if it's your native lingo, it sounds acceptable to you.....but as an ESL teacher from Elsewhere just serving a bit of time here before returning Elsewhere, I can't get over noticing it. And, yeah, it annoys me. It's clearly MY problem, though - I'm just a sojourner here, and I don't basically have any right to be critical.
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basiltherat



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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basiltherat



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

when Elizabeth is referred to as the Queeen of England.

Yes ... and a lot more. Rolling Eyes

basil
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Ben Round de Bloc



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 3:05 pm    Post subject: Re: English venacular that drives me mad. Reply with quote

senor boogie woogie wrote:
Calling the United States, "The States".

Oops! Guilty as charged. I use both, but I think I use "the States" more often. However, I don't refer to my home country as "America." I wouldn't say, "I'm from America," or, "I'll be in America for 2 weeks in August." Then again, I don't refer to myself or anyone else from the States as a "Yank" either.
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Senor,
Have you been drinking again? I thought you promised us you were quitting? Oh well.
ColoUrful post as always.
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dyak



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Senor wrote:
3.) People in a trade who use their own jargon than use the simple common words.

Like EFL/ESL teachers?
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lagerlout2006



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1 3 and 4.

1) Do people ever say "a throw?" It's always a throw blanket. And is wrap in "that's a wrap" a noun or a verb? (IN movie usage,)

3) Why would you or anyone find "the states" objectionable? Surely we can all get along on this one?

4) OK this should be 5. WTF is wrong with "hanging out?"



Speculating here ---but the Senor just might be drinking the blue wine---ahh he did post this on Super Sunday. (XXXIX) Why don't you add Roman numerals to the list? Wink
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