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aisha



Joined: 10 Feb 2005
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Location: Playa del Carmen, Mexico

PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:00 pm    Post subject: private classes Reply with quote

what is the average one should charge for teaching a private class?
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Guy Courchesne



Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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Location: Mexico City

PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on where. Mexico City, you can get between 100 and 250 pesos per hour. Guadalajara - around 80-150. Small towns, probably not more than 100.
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Ben Round de Bloc



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Guy. It depends on the location. In the city where I am, most people I know who do private classes get between 50 and 100 pesos per hour. It also depends on whether you travel to the students or they travel to you, whether you're doing asesor�as (tutoring to prepare them to pass an exam) or actually preparing and giving lessons, number of hours per week, number of students in the group, and other factors.
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richtx1



Joined: 12 Apr 2004
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Location: Ciudad de M�xico

PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're teaching private classes, be sure to collect your pay up front, especially if you are working with individuals. People tend to cancel classes, or realize they have other priorities, and you're SOL. If you've committed the time and effort into the class, which presumably is your income, you want to be paid... and a private agreement isn't enforceable.
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MixtecaMike



Joined: 19 Nov 2003
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Location: Guatebad

PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are a newbie you might find people aren't that keen to pay up front. Likewise, if you are an experienced and well-known teacher then you should be sufficiently respected so that your students wouldn't dare skip out without paying.

No shows can be a pain, but as long as the student advises you I think you have to just accept them. It's probably easier for you to find students than it is for them to find a decent English teacher, so if they are more than half-interested in learning English they won't do it too often.
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some waygug-in



Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'd be surprised at how often they do skip out, without notice, a simple phone call or even a sorry at the next class when they do show up.

Many of the privates I tried to teach simply didn't think there was anything wrong with skipping class without notice.
They were quite surprised that I would even complain about it. Rolling Eyes
I can't say this is a common trait of Mexican students, as I am only one person and I only taught a few privates, but this was my experience of it.

All I can say is......... good luck.
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moonraven



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't recommend giving private classes--for all the reasons other posters have mentioned.

If you need to supplement your income, it's less hassle to do translations or editing jobs--for which you can charge 100 pesos and up per page--if your language skills are good and you're a decent writer.
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Ben Round de Bloc



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

some waygug-in wrote:
You'd be surprised at how often they do skip out, without notice, a simple phone call or even a sorry at the next class when they do show up.

Many of the privates I tried to teach simply didn't think there was anything wrong with skipping class without notice.
They were quite surprised that I would even complain about it.

I used to give a few private classes and tutoring sessions. Most of my experiences with private students were very similar to what "some waygug-in" wrote. Some of the reasons I was given by students not showing up for class or not having the money to pay me were quite creative, actually.

I also encountered a number of people who sounded very serious and convincing about wanting to take private classes. However, once they realized it would take some work and commitment on their part, their enthusiasm quickly waned.

I no longer do private classes or tutoring sessions.
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aisha



Joined: 10 Feb 2005
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Location: Playa del Carmen, Mexico

PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks a lot for the replies. i guess i will do what moonraven has suggested and look for translating opportunities. Smile
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MixtecaMike



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Translating and editing jobs usually come from word-of-mouth rather than job postings, so keep that in mind when talking to anyone already doing that kind of work.
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moonraven



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike's right about word-of-mouth. The good thing about that is once you are known to be really good at what you do, you will receive the lion's share of translating/editing work in the area where you live--and when you are out of the area folks will send you work by e-mail.

I prefer to do mostly academic work--primarily for professors who want to present an article they have written in a "congreso" where English is the language of presentation, or who want to publish it in a journal.
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aisha



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Location: Playa del Carmen, Mexico

PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the info. i was also wondering if i would be able to find some work translating from english to spanish?
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MixtecaMike



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For English to Spanish there is much more demand, however in my case because my written Spanish is not particularly great (Moonraven will be happy to confirm this, LOL) I preferred to do oral translations, or basically sitting down with the person and just reading aloud what the document said. Then the person can put it into Spanish themself, if they need it, or just understand it, which was usually the case.

Of course I couldn't charge $120 pesos the cuartilla for that, usually I did it for free or for a couple of bucks.

I would not advise doing English to Spanish written translations unless you are almost as good a writer in Spanish as you are in English, because while the odd error in English might slip by unseen, errors in Spanish are going to be glaringly obvious to you employer.

Check out the ONGs (NGOs) as they are always doing grant applications and reports for their foreign sponsors.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I knew a girl in Mexico City that started volunteering with Amnesty International doing translation work. She was eventually put on the payroll for perserverance. Not sure about the pay but opportunities exist.

I picked a little document translation work for the Secretary of Tourism in Guererro, but through a school. You could also check with the Herald, a Mexican national daily published by El Universal and the Miami Herald. I see that some local expats write regularly there...maybe there's some work in it for you.
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Ben Round de Bloc



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aisha wrote:
thanks for the info. i was also wondering if i would be able to find some work translating from english to spanish?

I don't know how it is in all parts of the country, but I think you'd find much more work where I live translating from Spanish to English. There are quite a few locals who can do a decent job of translating from English to Spanish.

If a person is a very good writer in both languages and has native or native-like intuition in both languages as well, it's possible to translate into one's L2, but most translators do better when translating from their L2 into their L1. Even many of those who are very good at translating into their L2 often have a native speaker proofread their translations as a near-final step in the process.

Then again, I've seen some very poorly done translations into English in newspapers, magazines, tourist brochures, etc. published in various parts of the country, so maybe it doesn't really matter.
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