Site Search:
 
Get TEFL Certified & Start Your Adventure Today!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Students and Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

What kind of attire does one wear to teach at a high school?
Goto page 1, 2  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Japan
View previous topic :: View next topic  

What kind of clothes should I buy this weekend?
Buy conservative attire!
78%
 78%  [ 11 ]
Buy casual clothes!
7%
 7%  [ 1 ]
Buy clothes that are sexy but not too sexy!
14%
 14%  [ 2 ]
Total Votes : 14

Author Message
Lover



Joined: 14 Feb 2005
Posts: 86

PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:14 am    Post subject: What kind of attire does one wear to teach at a high school? Reply with quote

I hope my blonde hair doesn't show in this next question. I am going shopping this weekend to buy clothes for teaching in! I'd been to the school a few times, but didn't really notice what everyone was wearing!

What kind of clothes should I buy to teach at a private high school! I know the girls are forced to wear skirts so should I wear a skirt? Does anyone know if I have the privilege of wearing slacks. I don't remember seeing any of the female teachers wearing slacks but then again I wasn't really looking.

Thanks again everyone for all this advice!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
bearcat



Joined: 08 May 2004
Posts: 367

PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Instead of speculating, why don't you contact the school and ask.. duh.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
buffy



Joined: 12 Feb 2003
Posts: 57

PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with bearcat. It depends on the school.
At my high school teachers can wear jeans if they want.
Casual is the way to go where I work, but I think it is the exception rather than the norm.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
JimDunlop2



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Posts: 2286
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lover: aim for "conservative" and semi-formal -- especially if you're female. That's not meant as a sexist comment, just a real reflection on Japan's sexist society.

To start with, I would probably err on the side of caution and wear something along the lines of a calf-length skirt, blouse, sweater or nice top. Nothing body-shaping or tight-fitting. My wife has had enough trouble as it is getting groped by students because she's a bit more uhh.. top-heavy than many Japanese women. (She's not Japanese)... Bear in mind you will likely have to change into "indoor shoes" while at school, which is something to remember if you're going to coordinate with socks or hosiery.
At the same time I'd avoid the "power-suit" look, as you are not a businesswoman, not a porn-star for a Japanese fetish-flick... Then, look around and see what other teachers are wearing. I suspect nice slacks will likely be acceptable -- all the schools where I've worked have seen many women dress that way -- but I've never seen anyone wear jeans to work -- neither male nor female....

Just use common sense and dress no differently than if you were teaching in a high-school classroom back home.

This topic, by the way has also been discussed here:
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=17387&highlight=attire
and here:
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=11036&highlight=attire
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
nicyvesweet



Joined: 21 Dec 2004
Posts: 90

PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JimDunlop2 wrote:
....wear something along the lines of a calf-length skirt, blouse, sweater or nice top....


Dude, that sounds tacky.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address
JimDunlop2



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Posts: 2286
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I call em as I see em. At least in our schools. Wouldn't be my first choice either but this is no Paris catwalk.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Posts: 12844
Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At my private HS, the Japanese women teachers wear conservative skirts and tops, or they wear pants suits. Many put lab coats over them just to protect against chalk dust and whiteboard ink stains. (Guys, too, wear the lab coats.)

The foreign women teachers wear the same clothing, minus the lab coats.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Captain Onigiri



Joined: 20 Jan 2005
Posts: 103
Location: fly-over land

PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of my work clothes come from Landsend.com. Their clothes are comfortable, sturdy and covers all the areas that need to be covered. The prices tend to be on par with places like The Gap, they will hem your trousers to within a quarter of an inch and I'm told (I've yet to try this out for myself) that they will ship overseas. The sweater sets will probably tend to make you look like your mother but teachers are suppose to look like your mother not Ally McBeal. And as a person who was once a boy in his early teens, I can tell that you are not doing them any favors if you provide them any extra visual stimulation.

This advert for Landsend.com brought to you by....
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
nicyvesweet



Joined: 21 Dec 2004
Posts: 90

PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And the foot goes down!

If you're in the states, pick up this month's issue of Lucky. There is a whole section on how to wear this seasons trends to work. That way, you'll be approprate, and best of all, not tacky. I'm sorry, I just feel like wearing your mother's sweater set to work is just plain lazy. It's the equiv. to eating McDonald's every night for dinner b/c it saves time from making a balanced meal. It is possible to look nice and not be a sex kitten at work. Even my high school teachers could manage not looking 70.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address
Captain Onigiri



Joined: 20 Jan 2005
Posts: 103
Location: fly-over land

PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And this foot goes down, too!

I wouldn't go so far as saying Landsend is the fashion equivilant of eating at McDonalds. Buying your clothes at Sears or Wal-Mart is the fashion equivilant of eating at McDonalds. Landsend is more like eating at the Olive Garden. Not the most ambitious but still respectable and anyway not all of us can eat at the Russian Tea Room for various reasons.
Quote:
It is possible to look nice and not be a sex kitten at work.

I'm going to get in a whole heap of trouble saying this but here goes. A lot of women can't pull this off. While it is possible, it seems to be lost on most people that there are proper clothes for certain situations. I worked for Family Services for several years where 90% of my coworkers were women. The coworkers who were under 30 were always coming into work in these little Ally McBeal outfits. While the blouse was made of white silk, it would always be two sizes too small and the top three buttons would be undone. While the skirt was made of suiting material (some were in leather), it would be (to quote AbFab) so short the world was her gynocologist. It would come with a Tyrolean-esque jacket but they would always take that off. Then they would stomp back upstairs after an interview with a client and be all red-faced and fuming because their client had asked them what they were doing after work or had acted like their boobs might dispense food stamps at any moment. I don't know what it was but after their 30th birthday, most of the would switch over and start wearing stirrup pants and XL sweatshirts that they had decorated with fabric paint. I remember marveling that they were able to find a place that still sold stirrup pants.
I guess I don't blame women for the recent blurring of club clothes and work clothes. There has been far too many straight men involved in women's fashion since Calvin Klein went "hetreo". Your job in the classroom is to teach English and to do that you have to create an environment where leaning can occur. While adults are better at tuning out such distractions, 12-17 year old boys have a much more difficult time. It's better to err on the side of matronly than to contribute to having your young male charges to have to leave class carrying their books infront of their crotch.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
nicyvesweet



Joined: 21 Dec 2004
Posts: 90

PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Onigiri wrote:
...or had acted like their boobs might dispense food stamps at any moment.



hehehehehehehe Laughing
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address
Gordon



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Posts: 5309
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brilliant post captain, oh my captain. Laughing Laughing Laughing
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
PAULH



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Posts: 4672
Location: Western Japan

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:20 am    Post subject: Re: What kind of attire does one wear to teach at a high sch Reply with quote

Lover wrote:
IWhat kind of clothes should I buy to teach at a private high school! I know the girls are forced to wear skirts so should I wear a skirt? Does anyone know if I have the privilege of wearing slacks. I don't remember seeing any of the female teachers wearing slacks but then again I wasn't really looking.

Thanks again everyone for all this advice!


There are a few foreign women at my university and though I dont notice what they are wearing (slacks or casual seem to be OK but skirts tend to be above the knee) definite non-nos are things like skimpy blouses, bra straps showing, jeans and sweatshirts. A few seem to dress like librarians. They may have a patterned or plain blouse with a blazer or a jacket. A lot of women I guess wear stockings too.

I dont know about women but I sometimes sit on the desk in the front (probably a no-no in a high school) but you want to avoid having randy 14 year olds peering up your skirt I would wear slacks or something conservative. There seem to be enough "sukebe" (dirty-minded) male teachers around as well. A few have been caught with small cameras peeking up skirts at railway stations.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Yahoo Messenger
nicyvesweet



Joined: 21 Dec 2004
Posts: 90

PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 4:58 am    Post subject: Re: What kind of attire does one wear to teach at a high sch Reply with quote

Quote:
I dont know about women but I sometimes sit on the desk in the front (probably a no-no in a high school) but you want to avoid having randy 14 year olds peering up your skirt I would wear slacks or something conservative. There seem to be enough "sukebe" (dirty-minded) male teachers around as well. A few have been caught with small cameras peeking up skirts at railway stations.


Honestly, a woman can wear a skirt below her knees and still have to contend with erection concealing 14 year-olds and horny male peers. I refuse to wear a burlap bag to keep someone from looking. The line between sensibility and slutty is clearly drawn. No club gear to work. Cover your cleavage, retire the booty-pants, and leave the easy-access skirts at home. There, work clothes made easy. It is really possible to be professional without looking like grandma. Really, it is.

** Remember, when in doubt, buy the next size, or don't buy at all. http://www.bananarepublic.com/browse/division/division_20.asp?cs_category=20
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address
Captain Onigiri



Joined: 20 Jan 2005
Posts: 103
Location: fly-over land

PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I understand why we're not quite on the same page now even though I think our advice is somewhat similar. I recomended Landsend.com because I'm a TJ Maxx/Marshalls, wait till it's on sale, champange tastes on a beer budget kind of guy. You're a Banana Republic, champange taste on a champange budget kind of girl. I almost didn't recomend Landsend because I thought it was too expensive. I guess it all comes down to what percentage of your income you want to spend on clothes. A completely personal decision....except Kate Spade handbags. I hate Kate Spade handbags. It seems every woman in Kansas City carries one. Every time I walk through the Country Club Plaza I want to turn into a purse-snatcher, grab their purse, beat them over their highly coiffed head with it, screaming "this purse was ugly back when they were popular, stop carrying one!" and then return it to their stunned, praying mantis arm and walk on. See, not all gay fantasy is pornographic.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Japan All times are GMT
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Page 1 of 2

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

Teaching Jobs in China
Teaching Jobs in China