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BOE jobs "an edangered species?"

 
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bluefrog



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:08 am    Post subject: BOE jobs "an edangered species?" Reply with quote

This may have already been addressed in the "ALT Firms Questioned Over Quality" but I wanted to get some feedback directly related to this topic. I`m currently working for the BOE in Osaka and have seen a disturbing trend recently. Cities in south Osaka are quietly cutting back on pay and teachers hired through the BOE. Kawachinagano, Sayama, Tondabayashi, etc.. are all cutting positions or scaling back pay in elementary school, Jr high school or high schools. Sakai City already goes through NOVA for their elementary schools. There are rumors of a prefecture wide move to dispatch companies, volunteers, or other cheaper alternatives. Any thoughts?
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any thoughts? Uh, yeah. You'd better read that other thread.
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bluefrog



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:03 am    Post subject: I read the other posts Reply with quote

Sorry Glenski, I should have been more specific in the feedback I was looking for.
What I wanted to know was of some examples of ways the Boards of Education were cutting back, not just in Osaka but in other areas of Japan.
For example: In Osaka
Sayama is going from 5 to 4 ALTs in the elementary schools
Sakai City has gone straight to NOVA in their elementary schools
Tondabayashi is cutting pay across the board.
etc....


On the other hand I heard of a city in north Osaka that made English an official subject in the elementary schools.
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Big John Stud



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 4:10 am    Post subject: Re: I read the other posts Reply with quote

bluefrog wrote:
Sorry Glenski, I should have been more specific in the feedback I was looking for.
What I wanted to know was of some examples of ways the Boards of Education were cutting back, not just in Osaka but in other areas of Japan.
For example: In Osaka
Sayama is going from 5 to 4 ALTs in the elementary schools
Sakai City has gone straight to NOVA in their elementary schools
Tondabayashi is cutting pay across the board.
etc....


On the other hand I heard of a city in north Osaka that made English an official subject in the elementary schools.



North of Osaka? I know of a city south east to Kyoto that made English an official subject. I don't think the program is working out too good because too much pressure is put on the kids. I have a much easier time getting kids to talk now than I did then. The kids there were always worried about being graded.

Most BOE like to get their teachers from JET then from agencies. Cheaper and they can easily get rid of a teacher.
RIght now it is a movement to have ALT teaching in the elementary schools.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bluefrog,

This is a tad old, but it's more in line with what you were looking for, isn't it?

http://mcentyre.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1587
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Mtnkiwi



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 11:50 am    Post subject: Sakai Reply with quote

bluefrog,

Sakai actually had a contract with W5 this 2004-5 year. They used NOVA at elementary schools before that. Sakai has now merged with Mihara, that makes about 96 elementary schools. Sayama and Tondabayashi are tiny by comparison. The fact that Sayama had as much as 5 ALTs (Sakai has 4 or 5) for so few schools shows a very real difference between these BOEs and their approach to English teaching.
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bluefrog



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski,
Thanks for that link. What a disgusting situation. Is there anywhere in Japan that is increasing ALT jobs?

Mtnkiwi,
I didn`t realize Sakai had changed. What is W5, by the way? I`m not familiar with them. Sayama and Tondabayashi are unique programs but I don`t think they`ll be around much longer.That`s what I`m hearing from friends who work there.
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Big John Stud



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ALT jobs are increasing all over Japan! The company I work for is expanding every semister. When I first started with them they only had 50 teachers. Now they have 300 teachers working all over. But most of the positions are in elementary school and then in a junior high school.
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bluefrog



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It`s always good to hear good news about companies expanding.
What is the company and area?
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Mike L.



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
It`s always good to hear good news about companies expanding.
What is the company and area?


It's not good news these a "despatch company" parasites that often pay crap and could give a toss less about their teahcers or EFL for that matter.
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Big John Stud



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not the company I work for! I am paid well and have all kinds of support. The company really cares about having quality teachers. However, you are right there are companies out there that are only interested in taking advantage of guijin!
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Lover



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Big John Stud"]Not the company I work for! I am paid well and have all kinds of support. The company really cares about having quality teachers. However, you are right there are companies out there that are only interested in taking advantage of guijin![/quote]

So what company do you work for? Don't tell me that you are too insecure to share a piece of the pie!
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