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Mikka
Joined: 08 Mar 2005 Posts: 4
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Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:14 am Post subject: Rainbow Summer Camp Taiwan |
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Hi y'all,
I actually posted this message on the China board (I admit it I'm new to the board). Rainbow Educational is advertising for summer camp positions and I was wondering if anyone knows about this company or the summer camps. The pay seems good, $1,650US for a month postion; however, room and board are not included so money would have to paid to the company if you need help with accomodation, the situation that I would be in. I've never worked in a summer camp before so any advice or warning would be greatly appreciated. |
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Aristotle

Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 1388 Location: Taiwan
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Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:33 am Post subject: |
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The pay seems good, $1,650US for a month position; however, room and board are not included so money would have to paid to the company if you need help with |
A year ago I would have said that the pay was too low but in the current environment that is about average for a 30 to 40 hour week.
Pay rates for foreign teachers are continuing to decrease as are the overall number of teaching positions.
You can expect to be putting in 30 to 40 hours a week, plus prep time and possibly working on the weekends as well.
You will of course be working without the proper permits but don't be too concerned as the vast majority of foreign teachers on Taiwan are doing so.
A visa trip may be required if you don't have a 60 day multiple entry visa that can be extended.
Be sure to dress for a hot climate as the summers routinely are in the 34 -36'C (90 to 100 'F) and you may be working without AC.
Good luck,
A. |
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clark.w.griswald
Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 2056
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Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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Aristotle wrote: |
Pay rates for foreign teachers are continuing to decrease as are the overall number of teaching positions. |
I don't agree with this, nor do the statistics on pay rates over at Buxiban.com that can be seen here. Have a look at the statistics presented and then pop over to the Job Vacancies on the same board and you will see that schools are offering the same as they were last year. If you have some other source that backs up your point of view Aristotle then feel free to post it, or is this just your own personal opinion.
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You can expect to be putting in 30 to 40 hours a week, plus prep time and possibly working on the weekends as well. |
Any job that required this of you should be turned down immediately, and I am surprised that you would suggest that this is the industry standard as it isn't.
Salaried positions generally require teachers to be present at school for a good number of hours a week, maybe even up to the 30 or 40 hours that Aristotle mentions. Almost without exception these jobs are Monday to Friday positions, offered on a fixed monthly salary.
Most positions that require weekend work are hourly paid gigs, and these can be more lucrative than the salary positions. You generally have a choice as to whether you work weekends for extra money, but for some schools weekend work is compulsory. These positions are quite flexible in the offerings but an average would be about 14 (the legal minimum) up to 25 hours a week. Some have more hours for good teachers, and some smaller schools are only able to offer less than 14 and therefore not offer an ARC legally.
Aristotle wrote: |
You will of course be working without the proper permits but don't be too concerned as the vast majority of foreign teachers on Taiwan are doing so. |
In fact this is the very thing that you should be worried about. Less teachers are working illegally than ever before. This is one of the reasons that Aristotles advice is so out of date and invalid as he has always been an advocate of working illegally, yet now few people do so. The majority of illegal foreign teachers these days do not qualify for legal work due to nationality or lack of tertiary qualifications.
It is getting more and more difficult to get work in Taiwan according to the bizz locally, and the illegals are pretty well being squeezed out by the steady supply of qualified applicants, with the exception of a few strongholds such as illegal employers and the bosses that no one else wants to work for. |
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Aristotle

Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 1388 Location: Taiwan
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:57 am Post subject: |
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Less teachers are working illegally than ever before |
A very large segment of foreign teachers are working illegally they are just doing it with an ARC because ARC's are easier to get right now.
Having an ARC does not mean you are legal it only means you don't have to make visa runs and your name is on the books as a foreign teacher on Taiwan. |
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clark.w.griswald
Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 2056
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:10 am Post subject: |
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Are you going to even support any of the claims that you made in your post? |
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Aristotle

Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 1388 Location: Taiwan
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 3:35 am Post subject: |
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You will be working without the proper work visa or ARC. Your pay will be far lower than if you jst worked part time at a Bush Ban (language school) and you may have many unreasonable demands made upon your service by your employer.
If that is not an issue you won't be disappointed.
Good luck,
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gregoryfromcali

Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 1207 Location: People's Republic of Shanghai
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 9:16 am Post subject: |
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In that case I suppose the question is, does anyone know anything about Rainbow's summer program?
I am going to work for them this summer and I would just like to know what to be prepared for.
Thanks in advance. See you in Taiwan.
[email protected] |
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