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Norman Bethune



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 10:10 am    Post subject: Chinese "Green Card" Reply with quote

Ran across this recently.

http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200503/18/eng20050318_177366.html

Six people in Guangdong have got their Alien Permanent Resident Card (Chinese "Green Card") . I wonder how many foreigners across China have actually undertaken the process.

Any guesses?

Have you applied yet?
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Talkdoc



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Norman, I read that article and am wondering: is there a difference between this "green card" and the D- (permanent resident) Visa? The specifications appear identical. Does anyone know?

Doc
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Norman Bethune



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Talkdoc wrote:
Norman, I read that article and am wondering: is there a difference between this "green card" and the D- (permanent resident) Visa? The specifications appear identical. Does anyone know?

Doc


Talkdoc, I am not sure.

The term "Green Card" is bandied around so nonchalatly about various Chinese immigration documents that it is confusing to know just what the term in the People's Daily means.

The D (permanent resident) Visa may be the same thing. But here on Dave's and amongst foreigners, that god-awful term "Green Card" (borrowed from the Americans) is used to refer to everything from temp residence permits, Z Visas, to the D Visa, that I can't always keep the differences straight in my head.

The official name for the document in question is "Alien Permanent Residence Permit."

I add from another article on the smae website:

wrote:
The Beijing Public Security Bureau Monday received the first batch of applications for the country's new "green cards" for permanent residence.


"Green Card" for foreign experts
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Joan Hinton from the United States, Kyoko Nakamura from Japan and another eight foreigners, who filed their applications Monday, will get the permanent residence cards within one month, said Liu Jiewei, an official with the bureau's Entry-Exit Administrative Division.

All 10 applicants already have certificates of resettlement or permanent residence.

For them, the move is simply a change from the old paper to the new green cards, said Liu.

Since 1986, his bureau has issued permanent residence certificates to 35 foreigners who have made great contributions to China's revolution and construction.

Another 277 foreigners have certificates of resettlement issued in Beijing since the People's Republic of China was founded in 1949.

"At present, a total of 156 foreigners from 20 countries hold either one of the two kinds of certificates and they are living and working in Beijing," said Liu.

He said these people now can come to his division and change their old certificates to the unified "green card'' for a fee of 300 yuan (US$36).

Liu also mentioned that any foreigners, as long as they meet the requirements of the new permanent residence scheme, can apply for the "green card." The cost is 1,500 yuan (US$181).

According to the Regulations on Examination and Approval of Permanent Residence of Aliens in China, promulgated on August 15, eligibility for permanent residence mainly applies to four categories of people.

The first group is high-level foreign personnel who hold posts in businesses which promote China's economic, scientific and technological development or social progress.

The second category includes foreign citizens who make relatively large direct investment in China.

The third includes foreigners who have made outstanding contributions or are of special importance to China, and the fourth includes foreigners who come to China to be with their families.

Public security authorities will make the decision on each application within six months.

Joan Hinton, who has been working in China since 1948 and got the certificate of permanent residence in 1986, said she has witnessed great changes of China's entry-exit management.

The 83-year-old woman said with permanent residence status in China, she needs not obtain visas and can enter and leave the country with her valid passport and the alien permanent residence permit.

Du Taiyuan, head of the entry-exit administrative division, said foreigners holding the "green cards'' can also change their jobs and living places during their stay in China without going through any examination and approval.

Du said foreigners who are not eligible or do not intend to get the "green card'' can apply for 1-5 years of residence permits and multi-entry visas.

Source: China Daily
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Roger



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have always thought that the D visa is for foreign spouses of Chinese citizens living in the PR of C.
The 'green card', on the other hand, is a 10 year residency permit for professionals and investors with or without a local marriage partner.
In the latter case, there clearly is a limitation on the validity - it is set at ten years, though it is renewable.
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bendan



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My understanding is that the the new permanent residence gives you the same rights as a Chinese citizen. That would mean you could do any job you were hired for or start your own business. It would be automatically renewable, just like a passport.

I think the D visa is just the right to live in China, with a spouse or other relative.
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Talkdoc



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys for the clarification. I was told that if I work here for a total of five years, I could qualify for "permanent residency." So I assume now they were talking about the so-called "green card" and not the D-Visa.

Doc
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smalldog



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wrong.

The D visa has been around for decades and there were never any clear rules regarding eligibility.

The 'green card' was introduced last year to replace the old system, and the criteria for eligibility are published. Although the cards are only valid for 10 years, the status of being a permanent resident really is permanent (providing the bearer remains living in China and doesn't commit some terrible crimes). Green cards are mostly publicised as being for investors, but 5 years' marriage to a Chinese citizen with 5 years' residence also qualifies one for a green card.

Talkdoc: if you have held a post of assistant professor or professor in a 'top-level' institution for 4 years, you are eligible.
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