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marblez
Joined: 24 Oct 2004 Posts: 248 Location: Canada
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:33 am Post subject: I hate the field of ESL. |
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..."sigh".
After a full year of study in English, Linguistics, Grammar, and teaching students through partnerships and practicums, I have come to the realization that I have no interest in the field anymore. I haven't even been to my Linguistics class in 4 weeks.
Tutoring was fine, but the "real deal" is not as I expected. There are few jobs where I live that I would have any decent chance of obtaining (I am not working part time for less than $15 per hour, thank you, waitressing pays more).
Thanks for the help you guys have given me, but I'm gonna pack up and mosey on. I'm already registered to complete a BA in Criminal Justice by 2006 (my original plan after high school). |
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cujobytes
Joined: 14 May 2004 Posts: 1031 Location: Zhuhai, (Sunny South) China.
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:41 am Post subject: |
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31
Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 1797
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:42 am Post subject: last lane |
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Kent F. Kruhoeffer

Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 2129 Location: 中国
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:51 am Post subject: ESL = enjoying some lager |
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You guys are just having a day.
Drink a cold beer and chill out!
ESL = Enjoying Some Lager  |
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merlin

Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 582 Location: Somewhere between Camelot and NeverNeverLand
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:02 am Post subject: |
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Just a few real quick questions:
What were you expecting?
You mention you are still studying. Does that mean you're basing your image of the "real life" on the content of this forum?
People move for their careers all the time. Techies, for example, moved to California in the 90's and now they're moving out. ESLers have to go where the market is. There are more jobs for lawyers in the Northeast US. Not so many in North Dakota.
I personally will get out of TEFL sooner or later but I don't see it as a dead-end. It's a stepping stone that got me out of where I was as a 20-something gen-xer. As a 30-something family man I find it a bit wearing. As a 40-something I want something else from my life, I think.
TEFL has allowed me to get to kow myself, the world and my fellow man/woman a bit. Without that there's no way I could take the next step that I'm going to take.
It may or may not be the same for you.
Not trying to convince you or anything - I have no financial or emotional stake in your decision. Just letting you see another side of the issue. |
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Roger
Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 9138
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:24 am Post subject: |
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Maybe Kent said it best - you may currently facing the student's equivalent of a midlife crisis or burn-out, a condition endemic to most repetitive occupations.
Take a break - and return to the fold. |
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Zero Hero
Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 944
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:36 am Post subject: |
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A "full year"? Wow.
$15 (Can.) is but $98 HK, not much at all. In fact, you can earn more than that waitressing here. |
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dmb

Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:41 am Post subject: |
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| EFL/ESL is not for everyone. I applaud Marblez for accepting the fact that this isn't his/her chosen field and has decided to do something different. What is sad are the people who feel the same as marblez and continue in EFL/ESl year after year when they don't enjoy it. |
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denise

Joined: 23 Apr 2003 Posts: 3419 Location: finally home-ish
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 8:14 am Post subject: |
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The North American ESL job scene isn't too great, but there are plenty of opportunities in EFL. I'm not looking forward to the crappy pay and part-time conditions that seem to be the norm back home, but after several years of EFL teaching, I know that at least I like teaching--might make the conditions more tolerable.
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31
Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 1797
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 8:45 am Post subject: The TEFL houseparty |
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| What is sad are the people who feel the same as marblez and continue in EFL/ESl year after year when they don't enjoy it. |
What is sadder are those people who have been in EFL long enough to know how crap it is but still pretend that they are having a great time and that it is all worthwhile. |
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merlin

Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 582 Location: Somewhere between Camelot and NeverNeverLand
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 10:24 am Post subject: |
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How can you decide what's worthwhile for another person?
If some people find it worthwhile for them, then it is - until they decide it isn't worthwhile, when it won't be.
Like sex.
Is sex worthwhile? Does it put food on the table?
For me it doesn't put food on the table and contributes absolutely nothing to my future. It won't enable me to climb the career ladder and at times the consequences resultant from this activity adds considerable stress to my life.
And yet I still find the activity worthwhile. Go figure.
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| What is sadder are those people who have been doing it long enough to know how crap it is but still pretend that they are having a great time and that it is all worthwhile. |
Could be said of a wide range of activites we all choose to engage in but yet for some reason still enjoy.
The worthwhileness of an activty is created by the individual, not the activity itself. |
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ntropy

Joined: 11 Oct 2003 Posts: 671 Location: ghurba
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 11:59 am Post subject: |
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Well, at least you know now and it only took a year. I have never worked a day in the field I have my post-grad degree in. Spent much more than a year getting through that and don't consider a day "wasted."
People in myriads of professions "waste" years in professions before figuring out it's not for them. It's only wasted time if you consider it that. As Edison said after striking out for the hundredth time trying to create the lightbulb: I have not failed creating the lightbulb. I have successfully learned 100 ways not to do it.
And we all know what happened after that. |
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mlomker

Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 378
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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| And we all know what happened after that. |
Yes, but what about the many non-geniuses that didn't light the bulb?
I think it is natural for people to wander in and out of different career fields, regardless of your formal education. As a youth I didn't go directly to college because I thought it wasn't applied enough (I pursued computers through self-study). Now that I've gone back and completed college I still think college is a "liberal study" and not very practical---*but* now I know that is exactly the point! The best sort of education is the one that opens your mind to thinking in new ways and considering things that you haven't thought about before.
I know that living overseas is exactly the kind of adventure that I need to open my mind in that way and many others have discovered the same--whether or not they use TEFL as their means to sustenance on the way.
To the OP, I'd say go ahead and do something else for now. Follow your heart and you may find that a decade or two from now it'll bring you back full-circle. |
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ls650

Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 3484 Location: British Columbia
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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| ESL/EFL isn't for everyone. If the OP wants out, why are others bashing that decision? |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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| After a full year of study in English, Linguistics, Grammar |
Some study that long. Others (like me) studied less. Some study for 4 years or more. Sometimes it makes a whale of a difference. Not just time, but quality of study.
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| and teaching students through partnerships and practicums, |
What do you mean by partnerships? Who were your students in them and in practicums? I'm sure there are other types of students that you didn't explore.
Not trying to handcuff you to the radiator in order to stay. Just checking on the details of what your year was like. (Same goes for you, 31.) |
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