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liseechka



Joined: 12 Apr 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 7:29 pm    Post subject: what about CELTA? Reply with quote

Hi!

I'm wanting to teach English in Moscow. (Wait! I am in the right place here!! Wink ) My husband and I would really like to live in both Russia and Japan - actually, he's not too keen on Russia as he's a Russian native.

Because we'll have a bit of a support network in Russia (we have a baby daughter so this is important) and because he can get a job there as well, we're planning to go to Russia first.

While there, I can teach at Moscow English schools (it seems they require CELTA or other cert) or teach privately (cert not necessary). Both options have pros and cons for me, but what I'm curious about is this: Does the CELTA certification help in Japan? I was looking into GEOS, NOVA and AEON two years ago and don't remember them having any requirements for CELTA (or any other TEFL cert for that matter.) Would being CELTA certified help to get a better job than one of these "big 4" companies, or put me in better stead with one of these companies? Would it open up any other doors?

I'm not really at the point of looking for a job in Japan yet. It may be a few more years. Heck, I've waited this long, I can wait a little longer! But I'd really like to hear some opinions about what good something like CELTA (or other certs) would do me in Japan when I'm making my decisions about what to do in Russia.

Thank you!
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Celeste



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
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Location: Fukuoka City, Japan

PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A CELTA on its own wouldn't open any doors, but a CELTA with experience might. If you have already taught EFL somewhere, you are definetley more attractive to companies who are worreid about whether or not you will be able to stick out your contract. A CELTA with experience in Japan would certainly open more doors for you. A lot of better employers these days seem to want people with local experience. As for Nova, I have heard that too much training and experience can hurt your chances of getting in with them as they want fresh inexperienced people that they can mold into teaching their methods. Other schools such as ECC, seem to like someone with a bit of teaching experience under their belt.
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Does the CELTA certification help in Japan?

Does it help to get you a better job in eikaiwas? Not in my opinion. The Big Four and many others want to mold you into the teacher they advertise, so they have their own teaching format and some measure of training. People who have lots of experience or certification that they like to flaunt are usually avoided because the companies are afraid such teachers will try to change their systems. So, just be careful about who you apply to, and what they offer their teachers.

Will such certification help the teacher? If you have a non-teaching background, I would have to say yes. No matter how good you think you are at English --

1) Hey, I'm a native English speaker. I can teach it, right?

2) Gee, I always got good grades in high school English (how many years ago was that?). I should be able to teach it.

3) I write pretty well, and many people come to me to proofread their varisous sorts of papers, so that should make me a good English teacher, right?

4) Well, I'm not an English teacher, but I've taught geography / history / economics / physics / etc. , so that should be enough background, right?

5) I've never taught in a high school or elementary school, but in the companies where I've worked, I've been an official / unofficial trainer for the secretaries / lab staff / IT recruits / etc. That's a solid background for anyone teaching English, right?


-- in my opinion, getting training in teaching ESL or EFL is important. It may not be rocket science in the eikaiwas, but you are still likely going to need to know how to make a lesson plan, present it, and troubleshoot it when something goes wrong. And, your students will still rely on you to explain the grammar (which they may have a better command of technically, and which they learn[ed] differently from you).
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canuck



Joined: 11 May 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it helps. My school only hires people with a CELTA or a TEFL certificate. If you're new to teaching, a student centered lesson isn't 100% obvious. The only downside is the money and time you have to put away to do it. The course definately will make you a better teacher.
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