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cmoseley



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:22 am    Post subject: Breaking the Contract Reply with quote

I signed up for a year long contract with a school about a month ago, but there's something pending which might mean my resignation. There's a 3-month DJ tour of China which I might get in on, and if I do, it'll pay 3x what the school does. I'm on a 3-month F-visa they gave me right now, which is good until June, so they don't have a Z-visa to take away from me. According to the contract, I'll have to pay a 1,500 kuai termination fee which is fine.

Anyone have any comments or information on this that I don't know about? If I need a visa I plan on going to HK if I can't get it here. I have a pair of passports, also.
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tofuman



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cmos
I commend you for planning to pay the fee for violating the contract. Mine is $1,000.

Sounds flaky to me. How do you know this is not a scam of some type?
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Keath



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Breaking the contract, then you need to pay the breach or severance fee. . Usually equal to two months salary + costs..
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cmoseley



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tofuman wrote:
Cmos
I commend you for planning to pay the fee for violating the contract. Mine is $1,000.

Sounds flaky to me. How do you know this is not a scam of some type?


What do you mean? What could be a scam, the contract? The school has offices all around China, so I'm sure it's legitimate.
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andrew_gz



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"The school has offices all around China, so I'm sure it's legitimate."
Really?
They have you working on an F visa and you call that legitimate.

By the way, can you give any details about this tour. Who? Where? When?
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nolefan



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it is legitimate to work on an F visa if you're here for a short period of time. Most visiting/exchange professors that come to China for a year do so on an F visa.
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cujobytes



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 8:27 am    Post subject: > Reply with quote

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it is legitimate to work on an F visa if you're here for a short period of time. Most visiting/exchange professors that come to China for a year do so on an F visa.

Don't let roger catch you talking like that.
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tofuman



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, you signed a contract and now you plan to break it. How does that sound to you?
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cmoseley



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

andrew_gz wrote:
"The school has offices all around China, so I'm sure it's legitimate."
Really?
They have you working on an F visa and you call that legitimate.

By the way, can you give any details about this tour. Who? Where? When?


When I signed up with them, my L visa was about to expire, so they said they'd get me an F visa until they sorted me with a Z-visa.

The tour is sponsored by a brewing company, will last 3 months, and covers a few dozen cities.

tofuman wrote:
Well, you signed a contract and now you plan to break it. How does that sound to you?


It's tearing me up inside. Rolling Eyes
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Giantbudwiser



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they didn't get you your Z visa and like you said you only got an F visa there is nothing they can do, if your not loosing to much money than say your good byes and there is nothing they can do about it.
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cmoseley



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks to everyone for the help. Smile
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Talkdoc



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nolefan wrote:
it is legitimate to work on an F visa if you're here for a short period of time. Most visiting/exchange professors that come to China for a year do so on an F visa.


The issue of time is not the deciding factor; it depends entirely on whether the individual is earning income as an employee of a Chinese institution. You are correct that most visiting and exchange professors enter China on an F-Visa, and can do so legally, because they are not receiving income directly from the Chinese university (they are being paid by their home institutions).

For what it may be worth to anyone concerned, the only legal way to earn income as an employee of a Chinese school or university, is to do so on a work (Z-) Visa. However, uniform enforcement is another matter altogether.

Doc
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