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pozteach
Joined: 13 Apr 2005
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 Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 2:16 am Post subject: finding a job there? |
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Being able to teach and travel is/has been my dream for years. I'd like to go to China or South America ~ who am I kidding, I'd go just about anywhere! However, getting a working visa from a country which requires a medical would be out of the question for me, because I will likely be rejected (from what I know). I am young, experienced, and have HIV. I am very healthy, both physicaly and emotionally, and there is no reason, medical or otherwise, that I would/should not be able to accept a job overseas.
This is something I need to do now, while I am healthy and not on medications - not to mention while I'm single and childless!
My question is, what are my chances of finding TEFL jobs that will pay "under the table" while I'm travelling, and where will I most likely find these jobs? |
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basiltherat
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suggest posting on indonesian forum just to check but if things havent changed a lot since the downfall of soeharto, indonesia cud be a place to consider. i was there over half my life and never once had to have a medical to pick up a job. suggest checking with those there first, though. yuv got bali to travel around on, which is great.
best of luck
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Roger
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It is illegal in China for an HIV-positive person to beto be hired.
Also I am a little puzzled by your claim "...I am young, EXPERIENCED and have HIV..."
What do you mean by "experienced"? |
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Stephen Jones
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| My advice is to check where the medications are cheap, and to check up with the doctor whether you shouldn't already be taking them. |
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Brooks
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| with HIV, I don`t think you can get a job teaching in Russia. |
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mlomker
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| Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 1:26 pm Post subject: Re: finding a job there? |
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| pozteach wrote: |
| My question is, what are my chances of finding TEFL jobs that will pay "under the table" while I'm travelling, and where will I most likely find these jobs? |
From what I've read such jobs wouldn't be a problem in most of China. You may find it inconvenient and expensive to make runs outside of the country every few months to renew your visitor visa, but it has been done many times. Obviously the better your formal education is the more opportunities that you'll have.
I'd be concerned about you traveling to countries that have poor medical care available. Don't underestimate how incompetent some of the doctors are--I've heard too many stories about people with conditions much simpler than yours. |
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moonraven
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In South America, only in certain countries and with certain kinds of visas are you required to submit a medical certification that you do not have HIV. I actually paid for all the testing and certification in 2003, and they were not cheap. This time I used the friendship of the lab supervisor at a hospital in Mexico.
If you want to work under the table nobody is going to ask you for anything. |
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Justin Trullinger
Joined: 28 Jan 2005
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In Ecuador, most long term, residential type visas require an HIV test. (And a negative result)
But for short term teacher travellers, the usual thing is just to work on a tourist visa. (6 Months maximum) In this case, nobody would ever ask or care.
Good Luck,
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Guy Courchesne
Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 5:08 am Post subject: |
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| Justin Trullinger wrote: |
In Ecuador, most long term, residential type visas require an HIV test. (And a negative result)
But for short term teacher travellers, the usual thing is just to work on a tourist visa. (6 Months maximum) In this case, nobody would ever ask or care.
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I believe Argentina and Chile are similar, in both respects. I've met several HIV positive teachers in Mexico. Medications are appaerntly much cheaper here. |
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pozteach
Joined: 13 Apr 2005
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When I said "experienced", I meant that I have experience teaching.
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| My advice is to check where the medications are cheap, and to check up with the doctor whether you shouldn't already be taking them. |
Yeah, I know whether or not I should be taking medication already, and if I had to, I would be. I'm not concerned about where there's cheap medication, I'm just concerned about being able to find a job.
It sounds as though if I travel anywhere on a visitor's visa that I should be ok to find something... this is very reassuring. Thanks for your input everyone! |
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Glenski
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| for short term teacher travellers, the usual thing is just to work on a tourist visa. (6 Months maximum) In this case, nobody would ever ask or care. |
Maybe in Ecuador, but certainly not in some other countries. Working on tourist status is illegal in some countries (Japan, for example). And, the penalties are stiff. |
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Ben Round de Bloc
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 12:11 pm Post subject: Re: finding a job there? |
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| pozteach wrote: |
| My question is, what are my chances of finding TEFL jobs that will pay "under the table" while I'm travelling, and where will I most likely find these jobs? |
As others have mentioned, you would not have to work illegally in Mexico, since no type of health certificate is required in order to get a work visa as far as I know. However, my employer (state university) required a "certificate of good health" when I started working there 10 years ago. It was a one-time thing. I went to a government health clinic and paid 7 pesos (about USD$2.50 at the time, I think.) No blood work, and the examination took all of about 3 minutes.
In some parts of Mexico, it's easy enough to find illegal teaching gigs, especially for part-time and/or short-term work. In other parts of the country, immigration keeps a pretty close eye on schools that hire foreign teachers. |
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