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dan-johns



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 6:28 am    Post subject: distance learning degree ok? Reply with quote

Hi, i'm just about to start a BA in Sociology, but it's not run in a college. It's an online degree that you do from your own home.
My question is, do you think that employers for teachers in places like S.Korea or Japan would look down on my degree because it's a distance learning degree, or do you think it would have the same worth as a degree from someone who studied in a typical classroom setting? thanks for any responses.

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Celeste



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as it is an accredited degree you shouldn't have a problem. If it is a fakey-life learning thing, then no.
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ls650



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you tell us what school?
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mlomker



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 2:41 pm    Post subject: Re: distance learning degree ok? Reply with quote

I'd be curious where you got your degree as well. I also went to an online schools--the first two years through the University of Phoenix Online and ultimately graduated from Excelsior College. I went with Excelsior because they provided college credit for computer industry certifications. Regardless, both of those schools are regionally accredited and that's all you need with the exception of Taiwan. Taiwan only recognizes traditional schools, unfortunately.

If your school was DETC or unaccredited then it won't be adequate in the more modern countries that check credentials. From what I gathered it wouldn't matter much in China right now since they aren't checking accreditation and bogus degrees are commonly used to employ High School graduates--that may change at some point.
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dan-johns



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's the University of Athabasca, the largest disctance learning uni in Canada
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dan-johns



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's ashame about Taiwan, I was hoping on teaching there someday. One of the reasons i'm taking a degree is so I can teach in countries such as Japan and Korea. Obviously it's much harder to teach there if you don't have a BA.
Now i've begun reading some threads claiming that you can't teach in the UAE if you have a distance learning MA. Now after learning that I wouldn't be able to teach in Taiwan, it is a little concerning.
I could go to a standard college and get a BA, but the primary reasons for doing a distance learning BA is the cost. It's four times cheaper for me to do the latter.
So I'm now thinking that I may do a BA in a traditional college setting. Afterall, it's a hell of a waste of time to spend C$24,000 on my degree then find out that it's useless in many countries where I want to teach.

In case anyone is wondering, i'm in my early twenties.


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tedkarma



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Similar issue came up on the Korea board. Saudi Arabia (I worked there for five years) also does not accept "distance degrees". One alternative is to look into a few of the distance programs that also have a required residential component - where you must attend a few weeks per year. That would most likely help you get away from the distance stigma.
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Zero Hero



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hong Kong, too, does not tend to accept distance degrees.

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PAULH



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am in Japan and am doing a distance degree through a UK university. I know someone else here doing a degree with University of Southern Queensland.

To my knowledge Athabasca is recognised but i would avoid "diploma mill" or "life experience" type degrees for teaching here.
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PAULH



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 3:13 am    Post subject: Re: distance learning degree ok? Reply with quote

dan-johns wrote:
HMy question is, do you think that employers for teachers in places like S.Korea or Japan would look down on my degree because it's a distance learning degree, or do you think it would have the same worth as a degree from someone who studied in a typical classroom setting? thanks for any responses.

dan


PS the degree is not for your employer, its for immigration. As long as they accept your degree for obtaining a visa employers wont have a problem with it. The degree has very little to do with teaching credentials or ability but more visa eligibility in Japan.
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zero Hero wrote:
Hong Kong, too, does not accept distance 'degrees'.


All distance degrees or just distance BAs? Do you have a government link showing this, I'd just like confirmation?
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Zero Hero



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I understand it, all of them, though especially BAs. The problem - and there is an analogy with instant online TEFL certificates here - is that there are simply too many 'Get your BA/MA/PhD tomorrow type advertisements out there.
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zero Hero wrote:
As I understand it, all of them, though especially BAs. The problem - and there is an analogy with instant online TEFL certificates here - is that there are simply too many 'Get your BA/MA/PhD tomorrow type advertisements out there.


How would they know your degree is distant given you get a degree from a uni that teaches on campus and distant mode? These degrees do not say "distant" on them. Even if you are residing in another country, you could be doing trips to the uni to study on campus.
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PAULH



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gordon wrote:
How would they know your degree is distant given you get a degree from a uni that teaches on campus and distant mode? These degrees do not say "distant" on them. Even if you are residing in another country, you could be doing trips to the uni to study on campus.


Gordon, they can tell you do a distance degree becuase they match up the time lines on your job on your CV with the time you spend doing a degree. If you have a full time job in Shikoku while completing a part time Masters degree in Australia its pretty obvious you are not spending your whole time in Australia.

Doing a month here and there in residency is not the same as moving your family lock stock and barrel to Australia for a year, which would turn up on your CV.
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PAULH wrote:
Gordon wrote:
How would they know your degree is distant given you get a degree from a uni that teaches on campus and distant mode? These degrees do not say "distant" on them. Even if you are residing in another country, you could be doing trips to the uni to study on campus.


Gordon, they can tell you do a distance degree becuase they match up the time lines on your job on your CV with the time you spend doing a degree. If you have a full time job in Shikoku while completing a part time Masters degree in Australia its pretty obvious you are not spending your whole time in Australia.

Doing a month here and there in residency is not the same as moving your family lock stock and barrel to Australia for a year, which would turn up on your CV.


You're right, perhaps if you were in the same country...

I still want to see where it says HK does not accept distant masters, other than hearsay.
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