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micheal jezersek



Joined: 14 Apr 2005
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Location: Salmon Arm B.C. Canada

PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 3:58 pm    Post subject: Global Tesol College Reply with quote

I see that Dave has there banner up but are they any good, are the courses wroth the money.Question
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AsiaTraveller



Joined: 24 May 2004
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Location: Singapore, Mumbai, Penang, Denpasar, Berkeley

PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're coarses are probably wroth the money, but you shud defanetly czech them out carefooly yourself by doing sum resurtsch.
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micheal jezersek



Joined: 14 Apr 2005
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Location: Salmon Arm B.C. Canada

PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What kind of research? All that I can find is that they are a legitimate school. There basic course runs 120 hours and 35 of that is class room instructions is that excepable? or good? or bad?
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GambateBingBangBOOM



Joined: 04 Nov 2003
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Click the button marked 'search' at the top of the screen.

Allowing somebody to pay you to put a banner ad on your web site does not necessarily indicate an endorsement of the product or service being offered.

It's not like the TTC (the Toronto Transit Commission) endorses every company or service advertised in or on its buses, subways, or street cars; or in the stations or shelters themselves?

One piece of information that may be useful:

Hours logged for in-class training are not the same as hours spent in practicum. So when you see people write they had thirty-five hours worth of practicum, that does not mean thirty-five hours of in-class instruction. It means they were the student-teacher (either teaching the class or watching the teacher of the class and writing notes) for thirty-five hours.

What do you want out of the training?


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GambateBingBangBOOM



Joined: 04 Nov 2003
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just read your post in the Newbie forum, and I have to ask:

Is English your first language?

You might have some problems if it isn't (but there are non-native speakers teaching EFL. I know a few French Canadians- their English is really, really good though).

Also, a degree will be far more valuable to you than any private training certificate.
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jaytee



Joined: 28 Sep 2004
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Location: China

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, a degree is far more valuable.
I got my certificate through Global, at the time I thought they were good, but I knew I was paying a lot for not much at all. Once I started teaching, I found that much of what we talked about in class was more or less useless to me.
Expect to pay around $1500 for the basic 120 hour course.
I found that it certainly helped me to know how to prepare myself for my classes, but most of the other information proved useless for my current situation.
The things that they cover in the course are for 'idealistic' situations, where the students are delighted to be at school, are enthusiastic about learning english, and are well disciplined. However, I'm sure most people would agree that this is far from the truth.
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micheal jezersek



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To GambateBingBangBOOM yes English is my first language, Since you read my post are you saying that my english is so bad that it could be assumed that I am a non-native speaker?(I wait in dread for your response, but want the truth Confused ) Aso I would like to thank you GambateBingBangBOOM for telling me about the search button Embarassed
I would like to apologize for any hassle I have caused any one Embarassed
Please bear with me I am very new to this site and to forum in general(this is my first Embarassed )
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micheal jezersek



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To jaytee thanks for the info and the reality check Exclamation As far as the Course goes I am looking for something that will give me some tools that I can use in class room and an Idea of what I am getting into. Unfortunatly I have taken out a student loan before for other reason and I have to pay it back before I can get another Crying or Very sad to get my BA. I look at this as a good way to see if I can handle TEFLing Before jumping into BA and a pile of debt.
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ls650



Joined: 10 May 2003
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Location: British Columbia

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaytee wrote:
where the students are delighted to be at school, are enthusiastic about learning english, and are well disciplined. However, I'm sure most people would agree that this is far from the truth.


Jaytee, you need to move to a better school! My students actually are all three of the above. Well, maybe not all are happy to be in school, but two out of three ain't bad.
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mlomker



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

micheal jezersek wrote:
are you saying that my english is so bad that it could be assumed that I am a non-native speaker?(I wait in dread for your response, but want the truth


Spelling errors are easily overlooked in an online forum because it is a fairly informal situation. That being said, improper word usage is frequently a sign of ESL, a poor education, or being lazy in your communications.

I think that's why the other poster was being generous by accusing you of speaking ESL; the alternatives are that your education is inadequate to TEFL or you're lazy. Laughing

Quote:
There basic course runs 120 hours and 35 of that is class room instructions is that excepable?


My grammar is not perfect, but something along these lines would have sounded better: Their basic course is 120 hours and 35 of them are classroom instruction. Is that acceptable?
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GambateBingBangBOOM



Joined: 04 Nov 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mlomker wrote:

improper word usage is frequently a sign of ESL, a poor education, or being lazy in your communications.

I think that's why the other poster was being generous by accusing you of speaking ESL; the alternatives are that your education is inadequate to TEFL or you're lazy. Laughing


This is exactly what I was referring to.
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merlin



Joined: 10 May 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Spelling errors are easily overlooked in an online forum because it is a fairly informal situation. That being said, improper word usage is frequently a sign of ESL, a poor education, or being lazy in your communications.

I think that's why the other poster was being generous by accusing you of speaking ESL; the alternatives are that your education is inadequate to TEFL or you're lazy.


Nah, he's just trying to post between class periods and can't quite get out of the "teacher mode" of focusing on form over function.

He obviously doesn't frequent other non-esl "native speaker" forums or he'd realize that native speakers by and large have WORSE English grammar than non-native speakers.
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bearcat



Joined: 08 May 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Global is just a certificate mill. Remember there is no standard accredidation for various certs out there.

Check out this page on a blog:

http://www.free-esl-blogs.com/blogs/blog.asp?fEntry=239

Granted this blog owner doesn't have much good to say about Dave's here but what they have to say on the certs is pretty eye opening.
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mlomker



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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he'd realize that native speakers by and large have WORSE English grammar than non-native speakers.


It's hard to argue with that. It's easy to be lazy about learning grammar in your native language because you can often just "look at" a sentence and tell that it isn't right--even though you might not be able to explain what is wrong with it.

I suppose that's the difference between an English teacher and a native speaker. I'm sure that I would know a lot less about grammar if I hadn't gone to college and been forced to write so many papers in proper APA. That's the only thing that disturbs me about non-college graduates taking teaching jobs--what are the odds of them having actually studied grammar? I hated my high school grammar classes and didn't take them seriously. I suspect that is true of a lot of young people.
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GambateBingBangBOOM



Joined: 04 Nov 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bearcat wrote:
Global is just a certificate mill. Remember there is no standard accredidation for various certs out there.


The OP is from Canada, where there are both national and provincial government accredidation processes. Global is not included on either list (there is a Global Village CELTA certificate that is listed on the TESL Canada site, though).

Even if it were, the OP has said elsewhere that he doesn't have a degree, so he wouldn't qualify for certification.
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