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TL



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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2005 2:24 am    Post subject: Best MA/M.Ed TESOL programs? Reply with quote

Hi everyone.

I'm thinking about doing a master's in TESOL but am unsure of which programs are considered the best. I would appreciate it if someone could provide me with some insight.

Thank you.
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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2005 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the U.S., SIT (School for International Training) in Vermont and
Monterey Institute for International Studies - I may have the name of that one wrong, but it is something like that - in California have excellent reputations, and very high tuition fees as well. I am currently looking into Michigan State University, but I do not know what the reputation is of that school.
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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2005 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh no! not this argument again!
well, maybe this time it won't turn into an argument. i posted a question a while back asking specifically about the monterey institute of international studies, which travelingirl mentioned. it turned into a six page "discussion." then there was a similar thread a few days later!
the upshot of it is, i guess, that it really depends on what you are looking for. various TESOL programs have different pros and cons - prices, faculty, practical teaching aspect, facilities, distance learning, scholarships, availability of teaching assistantships whatever.
by posting this part i risk starting the argument again, but here goes...i am MIIS bound in the fall (just found out i was accepted Very Happy ), and here is why. it is for the most part a graduate school only, and entirely focused on international topics - international business, translation, education etc. half the students are international, and of the americans almost all have lived abroad. the faculty is excellent and the school has a history of innovation in the field of language education. i wanted to do the peace corps master's international program, and MIIS is one of the few schools that has it. this program gives me a scholarship for the last semester of study as well (it is an expensive program). these things make MIIS well suited to what i am looking for for my MA in TESOL.
oh, and also there's a really cool aquarium in monterey. Razz
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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2005 3:48 am    Post subject: Re: Best MA/M.Ed TESOL programs? Reply with quote

[quote="PAULH"]
TL wrote:
Hi everyone.

I'm thinking about doing a master's in TESOL but am unsure of which programs are considered the best. I would appreciate it if someone could provide me with some insight.

Thank you.


If you are in Japan Temple University and Columbia university offer Masters degrees at their japan (Osaka Tokyo and Fukuoka for Temple, Tokyo for Columbia) campuses. I graduated from Temple in Osaka in '94.


http://www.teaching-english-in-japan.net/directory/cat/17


Depending on your nationality you can choose from US, UK or Australian degrees. You pay more as an international student if you are not a citizen of the country you get the degree from.

Birmingham and Sheffield offer Masters degrees by distance where you can do the residency in Hiroshima for example.

Its not a matter of 'best' but the one that best suits your needs and what you can afford.
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2005 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What sort of program are you looking for? What is important to you? Best program for what? We all have our own priorities. Make a list of them and then see what is out there. I spent about 18 months researching masters in applied linguistics programs and I am glad I did. I am a little over half done my masters with the University of Southern Queensland (by distance).
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Depending on your nationality you can choose from US, UK or Australian degrees. You pay more as an international student if you are not a citizen of the country you get the degree from.


In the United States you do not pay more for being an international student. American colleges are priced by in-state and out of state. If you are outside of the state in which the school is located you pay more no matter whether you are a citizen of the U.S. or an international student. Some private schools have a set fee which is the same no matter where you are from.


disclaimer: There could be exceptions since I am not versed on the policies of every school in the United States.
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am currently doing a distance degree with a British university (PhD). I live in Japan and am a New Zealand citizen. I probably pay about 1/3 more than a British student doing the equivalent degree on campus (though there is no local degree for what I am doing), even though I attend no lecturers and there are no professors salaries to pay, except my supervisor living in the UK.


I think higher prices also apply for degrees done by Americans etc in Australia, for example.
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Kent F. Kruhoeffer



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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Konichiwa PAULH-san:

Just a quick question for you.

Is British University the same as The Open University?

Just trying to keep my Distance TEFL category up-to-date! Wink
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kent F. Kruhoeffer wrote:
Konichiwa PAULH-san:

Just a quick question for you.

Is British University the same as The Open University?

Just trying to keep my Distance TEFL category up-to-date! Wink


Have never heard of The British University and Im not even sure one with that name exists. There are universities in each region such as Essex, Leicester and Reading etc

The Open University is linked below.

http://www.open.ac.uk/
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry Paul; I misread your post above.

You said, "I am currently doing a distance degree with a British university " and I misread that as meaning: "The British University"

me dumb. Confused I must have slept through definite and indefinite article class.

The Open University is already listed on The Master Index; thanks for your reply! Wink
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies everyone. Just to clarify my question. I would like to know which MA/M.Ed. TESOL progam has the best international reputation I apologize if you thought my question was too general.
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TL wrote:
Thanks for the replies everyone. Just to clarify my question. I would like to know which MA/M.Ed. TESOL progam has the best international reputation I apologize if you thought my question was too general.


Ask ten different people and you will get ten different answers. If you want my opinion, I was happy with the course I did, but the School of International Training in the US and the Linguistics course at Macquarie University in Australia are well-regarded. Temple University has about 600-800 graduates from its campus in Japan.

If people thought their courses werent the best for them they wouldnt do them in the first place.
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Kent F. Kruhoeffer



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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 8:12 am    Post subject: updated 07 May 2005 Reply with quote

An updated list of TESOL Distance courses for your surfing pleasure:




DISTANCE TEFL / TESOL & POST-GRADUATE STUDIES


http://www.matesol.info/ (a Free Guide to Graduate & MA TESOL Programs)

http://www.actdec.org.uk/ (Accreditation Council for TESOL Distance Courses)

http://www.qca.org.uk/index.html (QCA / Qualifications and Curriculum Authority)

http://www.accet.org/index2.cfm (ACCET / Accreditation Council for Continuing Ed)

http://www.degreeinfo.com/index.html (DegreeInfo.com / Distance Learning Forum)

http://www.eslcafe.com/discussion/dz1/ (Dave's ESL Cafe / Teacher Training Forum)

http://www.educ.utas.edu.au/users/tle/Tesol/ (University of Tasmania / MEd TESOL)

http://www.une.edu.au/arts/LCL/index.shtml (UNE / Online MA in Applied Linguistics)

http://www.anaheim.edu/edu/index.shtml (Anaheim University / Online MS in TESOL)

http://www.aston.ac.uk/lss/english/index.jsp (Aston U / Distance TESOL & MSc TESOL)

http://www.thedistancedelta.com/index.cfm (British Council & IH / The Distance DELTA)

http://www.dundee.ac.uk/languagestudies/ (University of Dundee / Online MA in TMLA)

http://www.bridgelinguatec.com/ (Bridge-Linguatec / CELTA, TEFL & Online certification)

http://www.smuc.ac.uk/lttu/actdec/index.html (St. Mary's College / Distance Dip. TESOL)

http://www.schooloftesl.com/ (School of TESL & Seattle Univ / Online TESOL certification)

http://www.shu.ac.uk/schools/ed/tesol/ (Sheffield Hallam University / MA & PgDip TESOL)

http://www.intesolprague-teflcourses.com/index.htm (INTESOL Prague / Online & Hybrid)

http://www.usq.edu.au/handbook/current/opacsprog.html (USQ / MA TESOL & Appl. Ling)

http://www.ling.mq.edu.au/support/distance.htm (Macquarie U. / MA in Applied Linguistics)

http://ioewebserver.ioe.ac.uk/ioe/index.html (University of London / Distance MA in TESOL)

http://www.tesoltraining.co.uk/diploma.html (SGI / Online Trinity College Diploma in TESOL)

http://maxkade.miis.edu/call_online/index.html (Monterey Institute / Online CALL certificate)

http://www.teachenglish.co.uk/ (London Teacher Training College / Online TEFL certification)

http://www.open.ac.uk/ (The Open University UK / offers BA, MA, Certificate & PGCE Studies)

http://study.massey.ac.nz/ (Massey U - New Zealand / a variety of Distance TESOL Degrees)

http://www.worldcampus.psu.edu/pub/index.shtml (Penn State World Campus / Online MEd)

http://www.surrey.ac.uk/ALRG/ (University of Surrey / MA in TESOL & MSc in ELT Management)

http://www.transworldschools.com/home.htm (TransWorld / Online CTESOL Cert & practicum)

http://www.englishtc.co.uk/ (The English Training Centre / 3 levels of Online TESOL certificate)

http://www.csu.edu.au/courses/pg/edu/gcteso/ (Charles Sturt U - Australia / Grad Cert TESOL)

http://www.americanbritish.com/ (American British Teaching Group / Distance TEFL certification)

http://www.intesolinternational.com/ (INTESOL / Online TESOL & Diploma in TESOL certification)

http://www.indiana.edu/~disted/index.html (Indiana U of Bloomington / Online MA & Certificate)

http://www.drexel.com/ (Drexel University / Online post-grad teaching degrees & TESL certificate)

http://www.le.ac.uk/se/courses/tesol_home.html (U of Leicester / MA & PhD in Linguistics & TESOL)

http://www.education.manchester.ac.uk/postgraduatestudents/ (U of Manchester / MEd & MA TESOL)

http://www.uts.edu.au/study/courses.html (Univ of Technology Sydney / Distance MA in Appl. Ling)

http://www.ef-tefl-training.com/teacherinfo/training/online/default.asp (EF Diploma in TEFL / new)

http://www.cels.bham.ac.uk/prospectus/ODL/odlteflinfo.htm (University of Birmingham / MA TEFL)

http://www.su.edu/sas/tesol/ (Shenandoah University / Distance TESOL & MA TESOL programs)

http://www.cie.ca./otherpro.htm (Canadian Institute of English / Distance BEd & MEd in TESOL)

http://www.ling.lancs.ac.uk/study/masters/index.htm (Lancaster University / Online MA in ELT)

http://www.tesol-education.com/ (Harrow Institute of Linguistics / Online TESOL certification)

http://www.rdg.ac.uk/AcaDepts/cl/slals/pgcourse.htm (The University of Reading / MA in ELT)

http://www.bangor.ac.uk/linguistics/ (University of Wales Bangor / MA & PhD in Linguistics)

http://www.swan.ac.uk/cals/ (University of Wales Swansea / Online BA, MA & PhD in TEFL)

http://www.english-international.com/ (English International / Distance TEFL certification)

http://www.thekennedyacademy.com/ (The Kennedy Academy / Online TEFL certification)

http://www.bostontefl.com/index.htm (Worldwide Teachers / Online CTEFL & Cert TBE)

http://www.globaledcorp.com/index.html (GEC / hybrid TEFL & teach abroad programs)

http://www.innovative-english.com/ (Teachers Latin America / Online TEFL certification)

http://www.americantesol.com/ (American TESOL Institute / Online TESOL certification)

http://www.lambert.edu/eli/eli_e.html (Lambert University / Online TESOL certification)

http://distance.wsu.edu/degrees/ESLDistance.asp (WSU / Distance ESL Endorsement)

http://www.netlanguages.com/ (Net Languages - Barcelona / Online ELT certification)

http://unitedtesol.com/english/default.asp (United TESOL / hybrid TESOL certification)

http://www.traininglinkonline.co.uk/ (Training Link Online - Online TESOL certification)

http://www.global-english.com/ (Global English / distance learning TEFL certification)

http://www.uclaextension.edu/ (UCLA Extension / offers a variety of online courses)

http://teacher-training.net/english/Default.asp (ICAL Online TESL/TEFL certification)

http://www.worldportesl.com/index.htm (Worldport ESL / Online TESL certification)

http://www.olionline.com/ (Open Learning International / Online TEFL certification)

http://www.teflcenter.com/ (The TEFL Center / 120 hour Online TEFL certification)

http://www.onlinetefl.com/ (i-to-i Online TEFL / 'The Original Online TEFL Course')

http://www.onlinelearning.net/ (OnlineLearning.net / 'teacher education online')

http://www.excelsior.edu/ (Excelsior College / Distance BA or MA in Liberal Arts)

http://www.york.ac.uk/inst/ltc/efl/ (The University of York / Distance MA in TEYL)

http://www.norwoodenglish.com/ (Norwood English / Online TEFL certification)

http://www.ontesol.com/Welcome.asp (ONTESOL / Online TESOL certification)

http://www.winfieldcollege.com/ (Winfield College / Online TEFL certification)

http://www.teflireland.com/ot.shtml (TEFL Ireland / Online TEFL certification)

http://www.eurolinkcourses.co.uk/ (Eurolink / Distance TESOL certification)

http://www.tefl-uk.com/ (TEFL-UK / 40 & 60 hour Online TEFL certification)

http://globaltesol.com/ (Global TESOL College / Online TESOL certification)

http://www.canadian-englishcenter.com/ (CEC / Online TEFL certification)

http://www.tefl-prague.com/teflonline_public.htm (Tefl Online Prague)

http://www.teachercertificate.com/ (CETC / Online TEFL certification)

http://teflpro.com/ (PSL TEFLpro / Distance TEFL certification)



~ the end ! Mr. Green



* reposted from The Master Index Thailand (FAQ 11) located at the top of the Thailand Forum Wink


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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone recently reported on here that the New Zealand government has just waived the extra fees for international Ph.D. students. So you could do a Ph.D. at a New Zealand university and not have to pay more. I am not sure whether M.A. students have to pay more.
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I would like to know which MA/M.Ed. TESOL progam has the best international reputation I apologize if you thought my question was too general.


To those people such as Paul and others with a lot of experience, does the average foreign employer even know which schools are better? I am sure that in your home country that employers know what EFL M.A. programs are better. Does the average employer in Asia or the Middle East actually knows whether MIIS, Temple in Japan, Queensland University, Open University, University of Michigan, University of New England, or Purdue is better?
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