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TL
Joined: 07 Nov 2004 Posts: 76 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 2:24 am Post subject: Best MA/M.Ed TESOL programs? |
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Hi everyone.
I'm thinking about doing a master's in TESOL but am unsure of which programs are considered the best. I would appreciate it if someone could provide me with some insight.
Thank you. |
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travelingirl68

Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 214 Location: My Own State of Mind...
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Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 2:55 am Post subject: |
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In the U.S., SIT (School for International Training) in Vermont and
Monterey Institute for International Studies - I may have the name of that one wrong, but it is something like that - in California have excellent reputations, and very high tuition fees as well. I am currently looking into Michigan State University, but I do not know what the reputation is of that school. |
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amandajoy99
Joined: 08 Nov 2004 Posts: 63 Location: Brazil
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Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 3:44 am Post subject: |
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oh no! not this argument again!
well, maybe this time it won't turn into an argument. i posted a question a while back asking specifically about the monterey institute of international studies, which travelingirl mentioned. it turned into a six page "discussion." then there was a similar thread a few days later!
the upshot of it is, i guess, that it really depends on what you are looking for. various TESOL programs have different pros and cons - prices, faculty, practical teaching aspect, facilities, distance learning, scholarships, availability of teaching assistantships whatever.
by posting this part i risk starting the argument again, but here goes...i am MIIS bound in the fall (just found out i was accepted ), and here is why. it is for the most part a graduate school only, and entirely focused on international topics - international business, translation, education etc. half the students are international, and of the americans almost all have lived abroad. the faculty is excellent and the school has a history of innovation in the field of language education. i wanted to do the peace corps master's international program, and MIIS is one of the few schools that has it. this program gives me a scholarship for the last semester of study as well (it is an expensive program). these things make MIIS well suited to what i am looking for for my MA in TESOL.
oh, and also there's a really cool aquarium in monterey.  |
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 4672 Location: Western Japan
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Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 3:48 am Post subject: Re: Best MA/M.Ed TESOL programs? |
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TL wrote: |
Hi everyone.
I'm thinking about doing a master's in TESOL but am unsure of which programs are considered the best. I would appreciate it if someone could provide me with some insight.
Thank you. |
If you are in Japan Temple University and Columbia university offer Masters degrees at their japan (Osaka Tokyo and Fukuoka for Temple, Tokyo for Columbia) campuses. I graduated from Temple in Osaka in '94.
http://www.teaching-english-in-japan.net/directory/cat/17
Depending on your nationality you can choose from US, UK or Australian degrees. You pay more as an international student if you are not a citizen of the country you get the degree from.
Birmingham and Sheffield offer Masters degrees by distance where you can do the residency in Hiroshima for example.
Its not a matter of 'best' but the one that best suits your needs and what you can afford. |
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Gordon

Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 5309 Location: Japan
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Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 6:20 am Post subject: |
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What sort of program are you looking for? What is important to you? Best program for what? We all have our own priorities. Make a list of them and then see what is out there. I spent about 18 months researching masters in applied linguistics programs and I am glad I did. I am a little over half done my masters with the University of Southern Queensland (by distance). |
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JZer
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3898 Location: Pittsburgh
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 3:55 am Post subject: |
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Depending on your nationality you can choose from US, UK or Australian degrees. You pay more as an international student if you are not a citizen of the country you get the degree from. |
In the United States you do not pay more for being an international student. American colleges are priced by in-state and out of state. If you are outside of the state in which the school is located you pay more no matter whether you are a citizen of the U.S. or an international student. Some private schools have a set fee which is the same no matter where you are from.
disclaimer: There could be exceptions since I am not versed on the policies of every school in the United States. |
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 4672 Location: Western Japan
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 4:01 am Post subject: |
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I am currently doing a distance degree with a British university (PhD). I live in Japan and am a New Zealand citizen. I probably pay about 1/3 more than a British student doing the equivalent degree on campus (though there is no local degree for what I am doing), even though I attend no lecturers and there are no professors salaries to pay, except my supervisor living in the UK.
I think higher prices also apply for degrees done by Americans etc in Australia, for example. |
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Kent F. Kruhoeffer

Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 2129 Location: 中国
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 4:38 am Post subject: |
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Konichiwa PAULH-san:
Just a quick question for you.
Is British University the same as The Open University?
Just trying to keep my Distance TEFL category up-to-date!  |
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 4672 Location: Western Japan
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 4:46 am Post subject: |
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Kent F. Kruhoeffer wrote: |
Konichiwa PAULH-san:
Just a quick question for you.
Is British University the same as The Open University?
Just trying to keep my Distance TEFL category up-to-date!  |
Have never heard of The British University and Im not even sure one with that name exists. There are universities in each region such as Essex, Leicester and Reading etc
The Open University is linked below.
http://www.open.ac.uk/ |
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Kent F. Kruhoeffer

Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 2129 Location: 中国
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 5:14 am Post subject: |
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Sorry Paul; I misread your post above.
You said, "I am currently doing a distance degree with a British university " and I misread that as meaning: "The British University"
me dumb. I must have slept through definite and indefinite article class.
The Open University is already listed on The Master Index; thanks for your reply!  |
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TL
Joined: 07 Nov 2004 Posts: 76 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 5:25 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the replies everyone. Just to clarify my question. I would like to know which MA/M.Ed. TESOL progam has the best international reputation I apologize if you thought my question was too general. |
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 4672 Location: Western Japan
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 7:46 am Post subject: |
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TL wrote: |
Thanks for the replies everyone. Just to clarify my question. I would like to know which MA/M.Ed. TESOL progam has the best international reputation I apologize if you thought my question was too general. |
Ask ten different people and you will get ten different answers. If you want my opinion, I was happy with the course I did, but the School of International Training in the US and the Linguistics course at Macquarie University in Australia are well-regarded. Temple University has about 600-800 graduates from its campus in Japan.
If people thought their courses werent the best for them they wouldnt do them in the first place. |
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Kent F. Kruhoeffer

Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 2129 Location: 中国
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JZer
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3898 Location: Pittsburgh
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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Someone recently reported on here that the New Zealand government has just waived the extra fees for international Ph.D. students. So you could do a Ph.D. at a New Zealand university and not have to pay more. I am not sure whether M.A. students have to pay more. |
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JZer
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3898 Location: Pittsburgh
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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I would like to know which MA/M.Ed. TESOL progam has the best international reputation I apologize if you thought my question was too general. |
To those people such as Paul and others with a lot of experience, does the average foreign employer even know which schools are better? I am sure that in your home country that employers know what EFL M.A. programs are better. Does the average employer in Asia or the Middle East actually knows whether MIIS, Temple in Japan, Queensland University, Open University, University of Michigan, University of New England, or Purdue is better? |
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