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lyla



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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2005 11:19 pm    Post subject: Education Requirements Reply with quote

My husband and I want to teach english overseas, but I've just got a 2 year diploma and he has highschool. We're both planning to take a tesl course to get certification. But I am just wondering if any of you know what kind of job opportunities there are for us. Or, are there places that could hire us on a traveling visa so that we don't need a bachelor's degree? Are there other strategies for getting jobs that might work for us (Besides buying a degree online--we don't want to take that route)? If anyone knows of any job boards that might help me find these opportunities, I would really appreciate any information!!
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Doglover



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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2005 11:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Education Requirements Reply with quote

lyla wrote:
My husband and I want to teach english overseas, but I've just got a 2 year diploma and he has highschool. We're both planning to take a tesl course to get certification. But I am just wondering if any of you know what kind of job opportunities there are for us. Or, are there places that could hire us on a traveling visa so that we don't need a bachelor's degree? Are there other strategies for getting jobs that might work for us (Besides buying a degree online--we don't want to take that route)? If anyone knows of any job boards that might help me find these opportunities, I would really appreciate any information!!


You dont say where you want to work: Korea Japan and Taiwan will be out if you dont have a degree.

Depending on your nationality and if you are under 30 you can work on the working holiday visa in japan with no degree. This is a not a full work visa, and you can work part time with no sponsor and no degree.

Americans can not qualify for WHV.

China is a possibilty but they seem to prefer caucasians in that country.

Tell us where you are interested and then we can go from there. Also visit the country forums once you know if you can work there or not.
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Roger



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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FYI: Put Europe firmly out of your dreams.
They are thoroughly organised, recruit local teachers of high quality, with tertiary educatioln of a dedicated type, and teachers there are normally bilingual or even multilingual as a minimum requirement.
What's more, they have to teach serious subjects including writing, literature and grammar.
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lyla



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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My husband and I are from Canada. We've been thinking about teaching in Asia or in Latin America but we're also open to other countries that would hire us. Although we don't have degees, we both want decent quality jobs. Are there opportunities for us to work for decent good employers even if we don't have degrees?
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PAULH



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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lyla wrote:
My husband and I are from Canada. We've been thinking about teaching in Asia or in Latin America but we're also open to other countries that would hire us. Although we don't have degees, we both want decent quality jobs. Are there opportunities for us to work for decent good employers even if we don't have degrees?


Im in Japan so I can only talk about jobs here. Here is a link to the working holiday visa

http://www.mofa.go.jp/j_info/visit/w_holiday/


Immigration requires a degree for the work visa and a person with no degree on the working holiday visa is essentially no more than a working tourist. You can not expect the same rights and privileges as some one with a full work visa and a vested stake in the country they are working in. Jobs here are not bad, not great and you can make enough to support yourself. You wont get rich on it and you wont starve.

Pay on WHV will depend on the jobs you do but part time expect to earn around 180,000 yen for a 20 hour work week teaching English (all you can do if you dont speak japanese. Teahcing hours is NOT the same as work hours). You will break even on that but if there are two of you and income is combined you can live quite comfortably if you share costs.

I cant guarantee quality jobs but employees here are protected by the Labor standards law which means employers can not rip you off with wages etc. Mostly you will get the low paying jobs that no one else wants, Maybe you can check the jobs site on http://www.jobsinjapan.com and http://www.ohayosensei.com

Tax rates for working holiday is quite high (20%) but you can claim it back if you file a tax return.

Both partners must be under the age of 30, have never been on the program before and the visa is valid for six months, renewable ONCE.

As for other countries the only countries I know are China (pay is up to $US500 a month in Chinese currency, not really enough to cover your airfares) and perhaps Thailand.

Apparently you dont need a degree to work in Mexico.
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PAULH



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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I forgot to mention:

If you have at least one year of university or tertiary education you can apply to work part time on the Flex Time schedule at NOVA. This allows you to work part time teaching English up to 20 hours a week. NOVA is the largest private language school in the country with over 200 branches. Most other places here require at least a degree or that you are in the country before they will consider hiring you. Trying to get a job from outside the country with no degree is an exercise in futility. It can't be done unless you come on working holiday and line up some interviews before you come.

http://www.vocaro.com/trevor/japan/nova/level_up.html

Your husband if he has no degree he can either get a dependent visa or a working holiday visa but he would need to apply for special permission to work on the dependent visa, as it is a non-working visa.
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lyla



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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the links, I will check them out.
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