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Aristotle
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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 Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:57 am Post subject: Bribery, Plagiarism and Corruption in Taiwan's Universities |
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Bribery, Plagiarism and Corruption in Taiwan's Universities
The NC announced that a study of academic projects submitted over the past five years has found that 23 local scholars are guilty of plagiarism. This news refers specifically to plagiaristic abuse in applications for costly and important NSC grant proposals and research awards. Prominent educators, some still teaching and publishing, have lifted language, diagrams, whole pages of research, and handfuls of ideas wholesale from the work of others and passed the material off as their own. This was already sufficiently chilling news, but temperatures plummeted even more on my interior thermometer when I read that the NSC fears a significant number of the 6,000 research projects submitted to the Ministry of Education (MOE) every year for promotions may also be contaminated by plagiarism.
The more I read this news, the more my nerves froze up. And then I saw that the NSC believes bribery has crept into promotional procedures for universities. The mercury in my veins sank so fast that it practically blasted through the soles of my feet. If I hadn't been wearing sneakers, I'd have gotten frostbite for sure. Let me explain how a few bogus educators may muck up promotional procedures in Taiwan.
When applying for promotion from the rank of associate to full professor, for example, a university teacher submits recently published articles to accompany a "dai biao dzwo wen," otherwise known as a "representative work." |
http://www.chinapost.com.tw/cp/opinion/detail.asp?id=140 |
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clark.w.griswald
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| Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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Please do not post links to stuff without explaining the purpose for posting the link. Surely if there is an issue that you think is important enough to warrant posting here and that you are going to take the time to start a new thread about, then you should at least take the time to write a few lines about your reason for posting the link on this forum.
I have never understood why people would post links such as this one above, without telling us why. There is a poster on another forum that is well known for doing this, and I hope that it doesn't take on here. Surely it is against the rules of the forum, and if it isn't then it should be! |
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Taylor
Joined: 24 Oct 2003
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Location: Texas/Taiwan
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| Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Readers,
If "Father" Daniel Bauer didn't realize that plagiarism was common-practice here (until he heard this report)....then he is a really naive person.
The fact is, most academic publications in the US are just a lot of "balogna" too. (It's just that Americans are better at doing citations).
Taylor |
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Rice Paddy Daddy
Joined: 11 Jul 2004
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Location: Japan
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| Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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Taylor,
Good point - lots of academic dishonesty in North America also.
Clarke,
Does is say, "Clarke's ESL Cafe" up at the top? |
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Fortigurn
Joined: 29 Oct 2003
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| Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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Clarke,
Does is say, "Clarke's ESL Cafe" up at the top? |
No, and it doesn't say 'RPD's ESL Cafe', or 'Fortigurn's ESL Cafe' either. What it says is 'ESL Cafe'.
Aristotle has a bad habit of posting material here which is totally irrelevant. |
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Rice Paddy Daddy
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| Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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I don't mind his posts at all.
In fact, a few people who post here telling other people how to post and not how to post irritate me more than anything else. |
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Fortigurn
Joined: 29 Oct 2003
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| Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 1:11 am Post subject: |
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| Rice Paddy Daddy wrote: |
| I don't mind his posts at all. |
They are a complete waste of space. They are frequently completely untrue or at the least ignorant, and they are invariably irrelevant or misleading.
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| In fact, a few people who post here telling other people how to post and not how to post irritate me more than anything else. |
In the absence of moderation, you have to expect that some people who come to these forums looking for accurate information on ESL in Taiwan grow frustrated with those who aren't even in the country, and who abuse the forum by hijacking it for their own personal campaign.
And what irritates me even more, are those people who defend them. |
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clark.w.griswald
Joined: 06 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 2:23 am Post subject: |
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| Fortigurn wrote: |
| Rice Paddy Daddy wrote: |
Clarke,
Does is say, "Clarke's ESL Cafe" up at the top? |
No, and it doesn't say 'RPD's ESL Cafe', or 'Fortigurn's ESL Cafe' either. What it says is 'ESL Cafe'.
Aristotle has a bad habit of posting material here which is totally irrelevant. |
Thank you Fortigurn. My sentiments exactly.
I haven't stated anywhere what anyone can or can't post here. I merely stated that posting links to information without stating the reason for posting these links is pretty silly and unhelpful. Just imagine what the board would look like if we all did that. This is meant to be a discussion forum so let's discuss, not post links to articles without mentioning why.
I respect Aristotle for the fact that he at least holds opinions on topics and comes here because he aims to help others. I don't agree that his posts are helpful as they are largely based upon incorrect assumptions and a lack of information. RPD on the other hand has never offered anything to this board but insults of other users and the board in general. It certainly makes you wonder why he even comes here. |
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Aristotle
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 10:00 am Post subject: |
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Accountability of any kind is rare on Taiwan and practically unheard of in institutions involved with the Ministry of Education.
The fact that bribery, plagiarism and corruption exist in Taiwan's Universities is old news. Taiwan's Universities are directly run and/or regulated by the Ministry of Education by far one of the most corrupt institutions in the government of the Republic of China on Taiwan.
What is significant is the National Science Council (NSC) attempting to expose these criminal acts. The first step to solving a problem is properly identifying it, which the NSC has done.
If Taiwan's higher education institutions can begin to rectify some of the improprieties that exist there, then the possibility of reform is a reality.
Last edited by Aristotle on Tue May 03, 2005 9:03 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Pop Fly
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| Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Aristotle wrote: |
| Accountability of any kind is rare on Taiwan and practically unheard of in institutions ..... |
Bwahahahaha.
Accountability is even rarer in your posts A. |
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Polina
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| Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Interesting article, Aristotle. Its relevance should be obvious to anyone with a sense of integrity trying to keep afloat in the EFL Taiwan cesspool. |
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clark.w.griswald
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| Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Polina wrote: |
| Interesting article, Aristotle. Its relevance should be obvious to anyone with a sense of integrity trying to keep afloat in the EFL Taiwan cesspool. |
I find posts such as this one distasteful. Just like RPD, this poster comes across to the Taiwan forum infrequently, and when she does she makes posts such as this. Insulting. This is another example of the phenomona that I am yet to understand - if these posters hate Taiwan so much, and hold the users of the Taiwan forum in such contempt, then why come to this forum. I just don't understand it, but it certainly seems to say a lot more about the integrity (or lack thereof) of these individuals than it does about the users that actually use this forum regularly and actually offer information, rather than try to drag others down in their own bitterness.
Polina, first off, I don't believe that anyone has indicated that this particular article is irrelevant, the question is as to what Aristotles opinion is on the matter and his reason for posting it here. I initially posted a request that users don't just post links to articles without explaining the reason behind the link. It is not my board and therefore I do not ask this with any authority, but I certainly do not believe that anyone here really wants to see this forum degenerate into a links fest!
Secondly, since you have raised the issue and made comment about the state of the EFL industry in Taiwan, maybe you would care to explain your position a little more clearly, and your background with the industry that you are criticizing. |
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Fortigurn
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| Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 2:51 am Post subject: |
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| Polina wrote: |
| Interesting article, Aristotle. Its relevance should be obvious to anyone with a sense of integrity trying to keep afloat in the EFL Taiwan cesspool. |
Do we have mods on this forum to whom we can report posts like these? |
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Incredible Ape
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Location: Witness Protection Programme
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| Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 9:31 am Post subject: |
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Agreed. I think Clark W.G is the closest thing this board has got to a mod. Unfortunately he doesn't have delete/edit functions to remove obvious trolling such as that comment.
Perhaps there's some way Dave can grant such powers, to bring a little decorum into this most quiet of forums. |
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clark.w.griswald
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| Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Incredible Ape wrote: |
Agreed. I think Clark W.G is the closest thing this board has got to a mod. Unfortunately he doesn't have delete/edit functions to remove obvious trolling such as that comment.
Perhaps there's some way Dave can grant such powers, to bring a little decorum into this most quiet of forums. |
I appreciate this sentiment, but don't think that the board needs any more moderators.
There are already a number of them for this forum, the only problem being that they need to moderate all the forums here at Daves. I have had concerns with the mods here on some occasions but overall I would have to say that they are pretty good. If anyone has any concerns with a posting on the forum then I recommend that you PM the mods. They have always acted fairly quickly in the past when situations were brought to their attention. I guess that they may not visit here unless a problem arises and that's much better than a heavily modified forum IMHO.
As far as the hit and miss posters that I referred to earlier, well maybe they should undertake some self-moderation and think before they post. |
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