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Aristotle vs Griswald: Who Do You Believe?

 
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Aristotle vs Griswald: Who Do You Believe?
Aristotle
34%
 34%  [ 8 ]
Griswald
65%
 65%  [ 15 ]
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Incredible Ape



Joined: 10 Jun 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 9:07 am    Post subject: Aristotle vs Griswald: Who Do You Believe? Reply with quote

Don't you just love the to-ing and fro-ing between Arostotle and Clark W. Griswald?

Aristotle says: There are no teaching jobs in Taiwan
Griswald says: Show me the facts, there's no evidence for that.
Aristotle says: The chicken came first.
Griswald says: No, it was the egg, stupid.

I think it's a great lively debate, keep it up fellas. But who do you think is talking the most sense?

I vote Griswald.
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Girl Scout



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aristotle is a doomsayer. He does cause a lot of lively "to and fro-ing" though.
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Ilanian



Joined: 08 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate to vote against our SSETT leader but, my vote is in.
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clark.w.griswald



Joined: 06 Dec 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I voted for myself, I hope that's not too unsportsmen like Embarassed

Seriously though, this place would be pretty dull if Aristotle weren't posting here. I for one hope that he continues his posts, as he does raise points that are good for discussion. I rarely agree with his take on things, but welcome him to support his arguments if he wants to get the Griswald bear off his back!
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Fortigurn



Joined: 29 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Griswald every time. Aristotle has no credibilty, never substantiates his claims, often repeats them even when they are proved false, and isn't even in the country.

Griswald has a proven track record of accuracy and reasoned opinion.
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puiwaihin



Joined: 16 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I almost voted for Aristotle. But then I realized it wasn't between the philosopher and a national lampoon. Laughing

Aristotle isn't totally off, but he is extreme. I tend to go with conservatives.
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junkmail



Joined: 19 Dec 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I judge each post on it's individual merits.
Null vote.

As to which do I believe, i don't feel that either poster is a liar. They present their points of view like everone.

Both posters go to some effort to at least reply to questions on this forum which is why both are well known enough on this forum to have a poll about.

Just my two cents worth. Wink
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Incredible Ape



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I didn't expect this to be quite so one-sided, but the people have spoken. Let's hope that the landslide doesn't have any impact on Aristotle's posting, since I also feel he makes a good contribution.

In the words of Bob Evans, there are 3 sides to every story: My side, your side, and the truth. And neither of us is lying.
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matchstick_man



Joined: 21 May 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not voting. I've asked Aristotle questions many times and received one answer. If I were a new poster I would readall Aristotle's posts before making a judgement call. I've never asked Clark Griswald anything. I'd say Clark has the better website reference.
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ScottSommers



Joined: 21 Jan 2003
Posts: 82
Location: Taiwan

PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aristotle is a great source of information about certain aspects of teaching English in Taiwan. If your goal is to work at the lowest levels of the industry, continually scrounging visas out of Hong Kong, hoping that you don't get really sick and need health insurance, Aristotle has a great deal of information to provide -- REALLY. And the reality is that there are people who want to know about this. But if you're tired of that or want a future, he has little to say. For information about serious, sustainable work, Clark is probably a better source.
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Rice Paddy Daddy



Joined: 11 Jul 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think you're all pretty silly and this just reflects how boring and uninteresting the taiwan forum really is.
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Wonder



Joined: 29 Jun 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmmmmmm...yes, very interesting.

I know clark always tries to provide the most accurate answers and proof etc, but ya gotta admit the A man is provocative, to say the least. I really think he is trolling most of the time. I mean, how could anyone take the A man seriously???

For amusement I go with Aristotle! He knows how to make others' blood boil! Cool
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clark.w.griswald



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wonder wrote:
I really think he is trolling most of the time. I mean, how could anyone take the A man seriously???


You know that this is the scariest thing about A.

I believe that he is entirely serious in his posting, and that he really believes what he claims to be true. I believe that he really feels that his posts are factual and helpful, even though they are often proved wrong.
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Glen Denton



Joined: 03 Jul 2003
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All in all, I believe they are both correct.
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