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cecilia
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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 Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2003 4:25 am Post subject: Sagan, IEC, Kent Eikaiwa, Evergreen, Cosmo etc |
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I have applied for several jobs teaching in Japanese schools for the
coming school year.
Sagan, IEC, Kent Eikaiwa, Evergreen, Cosmo, Korakuen English Centre.
I had an interview with Sagan on Friday - my impression of them was
very positive. I have interviews with IEC, and E-Staff coming up and
am yet to hear back from the others.
If anyone has any experience of working for these companies I would
be glad to hear.
I have seen a not very positive comment on Korakuen English Centre.
Also if anyone can relate the differences between teaching in a
government school compared with a private school I would also be
very interested to hear.
With thanks
Cecilia |
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wintersweet
Joined: 18 Jan 2005
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Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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| Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 10:22 pm Post subject: Two years later... |
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| Cosmo has a listing in the current Ohayo Sensei for Nishinomiya. Anybody know anything about them? |
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guest of Japan
Joined: 28 Feb 2003
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Location: Japan
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:11 am Post subject: |
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| I once interviewed for IEC. I found them to be very nice and they seemed quite professional, but the salary was far to small. |
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Glenski
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:54 am Post subject: |
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| Do a search for Korakuen. I just started a thread on that not long ago. |
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yamanote senbei
Joined: 28 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:25 am Post subject: Re: Two years later... |
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| wintersweet wrote: |
| Cosmo has a listing in the current Ohayo Sensei for Nishinomiya. Anybody know anything about them? |
They are known for making extremely low bids for BOE contracts.
http://www.cosmo-web-net.co.jp/outline/index.html
If you read what's on their website, you'll find that just like all the other foreign teacher dispatching companies in Japan, they are operating illegally.
2. native AETs are [illegally] outsourced
3. [Japanese] teachers are dispatched, and they list their company's dispatch licence number
For 2001, they boast that they [illegally] sent AETs to 100 public schools.
Only Japanese teachers are legally employed through them. How they get away with this, I don't know other than probably because very few ALTs can read Japanese and are aware of their rights.
I should add that besides Cosmo, Sagan Speak, IEC, Kent Eikaiwa, Evergreen, Korakuen English Centre, RCS, Wing Institute, W5, are doing exactly or nearly exactly the same thing. |
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bornslippy1981
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| Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:49 am Post subject: |
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| guest of Japan wrote: |
| I once interviewed for IEC. I found them to be very nice and they seemed quite professional, but the salary was far to small. |
Same thoughts. Nice people, but the salary is far to low - 230,000 for full-time.
I wonder how desperate some people are that they take these positions?  |
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:32 am Post subject: |
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There is information about Korakuen on the Nambu blog at http://www.interacunion.org/
Apparently Korakuen does not have a dispatching licence and sends teachers to schools illegally. |
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JaredW
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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Location: teaching high school in Sacramento, CA, USA
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| Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:50 am Post subject: |
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| bornslippy1981 wrote: |
| guest of Japan wrote: |
| I once interviewed for IEC. I found them to be very nice and they seemed quite professional, but the salary was far to small. |
Same thoughts. Nice people, but the salary is far to low - 230,000 for full-time.
I wonder how desperate some people are that they take these positions? |
It must be supply and demand. I know friends that just want the experience of living abroad for experience to use for grad schools and to learn a language. As long as there is someone to fill the jobs, there will be companies that offer that salary. |
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Glenski
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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| Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:53 am Post subject: |
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Is IEC the place in northern Hokkaido?
If so, stay as far away as possible. They advertise every 3 months to fill the same position, so you KNOW they have a scam going. If it IS this place, then I guarantee you should stay away. |
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Glenski
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| Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:54 am Post subject: |
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Same thoughts. Nice people, but the salary is far to low - 230,000 for full-time.
I wonder how desperate some people are that they take these positions |
Obviously VERY desperate and very uninformed about wages here.
Heck, some employers are advertising a 40-hour week for only 170,000 yen/month!!! |
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wangtesol
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| Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 8:16 am Post subject: |
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If you are interviewing for private company ALT jobs Cecilia, then these are almost always illegal. And so, can you guess what kind of reception you get from teachers at the public school? Not a very good one I am afriad. You are just considered temp staff by the board of education as well who won't give a crap about your working conditions.
I knew a girl who worked for Kent. She lasted only 6 months, but during that time she got a cold and the teachers at her school blamed her for getting sick.
If you get job on the JET Programme (which is legitimate) you avoid a lot of negative garbage from the Japanese teachers. Otherwise, who can blame them for trying to protect their workplace against illegally employed workers?
Korakuen definately uses illegal contracts for ALTs.
I think Evergreen was found guilty by Japanese courts of also using illegal contracts for teachers.
The resy I am not so sure about, but they are small outfits and they usually follow the lead of the bigger schools such as Interac which also use illegal contracts. |
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Glenski
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| Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:17 am Post subject: |
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| who can blame them for trying to protect their workplace against illegally employed workers? |
Wangtesol, in your experience, do the Japanese teachers really know about this illegality with dispatch companies? How are they actually "protecting" their schools by giving ALTs a cold reception? |
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bornslippy1981
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| Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Glenski wrote: |
Is IEC the place in northern Hokkaido?
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No, it's based in Tokyo. Their contracts are for Itabashi-Ku and Minato-Ku. |
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yamanote senbei
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| Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 10:53 am Post subject: |
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| IEC's ALT dispatch business is completely illegal. |
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kitano
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| Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:54 pm Post subject: illegal |
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what exactly is the definition of illegal and what does it matter in this context?
BOEs all over Japan are employing alts this way year after year with the full knowledge of the Ministry of Education and the Ministry of Labour. |
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