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80 to a 100 students in a classroom

 
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ttrtaft



Joined: 13 Oct 2004
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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2005 5:48 pm    Post subject: 80 to a 100 students in a classroom Reply with quote

Hi,
I will be teaching at a private university. I will be teaching 80 to 100 freshmen university students. I will be teaching listening and conversational English. How do I go about teaching conversational English to 80 to 100 students? Thank-you for any advice.

Thanks
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beck's



Joined: 06 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2005 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can't effectively teach conversational English to classes that are that large. Don't tell me you got sucked into a job at Yang En University?!
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lily



Joined: 02 Aug 2004
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PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2005 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Group work. Show a bit of a movie - sound off. Have the students write the diaogue, then do it in front of the class, with the movie on in the back, sound still off.

Prepare a short story using simple English. I heard rumour of a list that has 1800 common words that students should know - anyone know where people could get hold of that list? Dictate it to students, then have them check each other's work for mistakes.

Good luck!
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Babala



Joined: 28 Jan 2005
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PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2005 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How long are the classes? When I taught uni and the classes were 1 1/2 hours, I divided the class in half and gave them each a 45min lesson. I discussed it with the head of the university and reasoned that they would get more speaking practice in the 45min than they would get in 1 1/2 hours if I had so many of them. They approved my request.
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anthyp



Joined: 16 Apr 2004
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Location: Chicago, IL USA

PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2005 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttrtraft wrote:
I will be teaching 80 to 100 freshmen university students. I will be teaching listening and conversational English. How do I go about teaching conversational English to 80 to 100 students?


First of all, as the previous poster suggested, try to get the person responsible for arranging schedules in your school to cut your classes in half. If it's currently 90 minutes, that's two 45 minute lessons of 40 - 50 kids, which is certainly doable. If it's currently 45 minutes, or if they won't agree to that, well ...

Try dividing the class into groups with a student monitor at the head of each group. Say, 10 groups of 10 students. Abandon hope of proper EFL instruction and just try to get them to do productive group activities: you could have them write dialogues together, for example, or hold spelling competitions, things like that.

Lucky you, I just found some links to a few threads in which we've discussed this very matter.

This one is from the teacher discussion part of this website:
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/teacher/viewtopic.php?t=1222
This one from the Spain forum:
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=11874

Here are some helpful quotes, courtesy of Sally Olsen:

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Think of it as eight classes of 10 but just held at the same time. Make up teams of 10 and have them identify themselves in some way with name and chant and logo and even song or rap. Then the group of 10 work together on something and you only have 10 worksheets to make.


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[Y]ou can have competitions between the teams on what they learned or they can keep a journal and share that with team members and then with the group at the end in a poster board session where they write their best observations or funniest or wierdest on posters and a team member takes turn standing by them to explain while the rest go around and read and laugh.


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We had an English Competition between classes with the team of four or five being voted on and then meeting in the gym in front of all the classes to compete in friendly ways - they had to do a skit on the spur of the moment with characters like a camel, a rabbit, an old man and a Queen, present their class song, draw a picture as a team from a description and so on.


Good luck and I hope you don't go mad teaching all of those damn kids.
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kev7161



Joined: 06 Feb 2004
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Location: Suzhou, China

PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2005 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think dividing them into groups of 10 is a great idea. To motivate them, have them come up with a team name, a team coat-of-arms, a team slogan/motto, a team color combination, etc. Many of your activities can be in the form of competitions. Have the other 8 groups that aren't competing at the time do a "viewer survey" or a feedback, if you will to award points (do your own as well and your feedback is worth more).

On the TV show Survivor and The Apprentice, sometimes they regroup teams as one side may become much smaller as time goes by and as people are eliminated. Naturally, you don't want to eliminate anyone, but teams that consistently score lower points in activities/competitions may need a reshuffling. You could have some fun with that as groups have to "vote out" one or two members and they have to go to another. Or, so nobody gets hurt feelings, you could have elimination competitions (all English-based, naturally) within the groups. The one or two that scores the lowest, must move onto another group of your choosing.

Regardless of what you plan to do, Chinese students are very competitive in general and if you can come up with a bunch of games and such for them to win, then you may have a successful class. Don't forget to have some sort of simple prize (like candy bars for all) and also a trophy or plaque that can rotate amongst the winning group for that month.
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Volodiya



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PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2005 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, my. Taft, are you daft? For your first teaching job in China? You'll need a whip and chair, instead of a chalk, to control this mob.

Big classes are for experienced teachers, with a lot of practical skill dealing with the pandemonium and, even they will have a hard time delivering anything of value in this setting.

I'm under the impression that you don't have a degree, but can't you keep looking for something a little less demanding?- say, something about the size of the group (ten) you were working with back home?
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