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turtlepi1
Joined: 15 Jun 2004 Posts: 94
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 8:23 am Post subject: Pros and Cons of living in each Emirate. |
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I'm new to the Gulf and I made a one-day 16 hour drive through all of the Emirates. While you can't get a feel for life at 160 km/h I did get the impression that each emirate holds its own unique charms and challenges.
I'm in Abu Dhabi. I find the population less "transient" than Dubai. It is more conservative than Dubai, but I wouldn't consider it restrictive.
Traffic is not a major concern compared to Dubai but probably worse than some other emirates.
Plenty of restaurants, bars, movie theatres, etc. Our housing allowances could be better but we are hardly living in poverty. (Apartment vs. villa)
I want to start racing dirt bikes but getting off the island requires a trailer and something to pull it. Not a problem in places like Fujairah.
Guess I am bored today. But maybe I will learn a little more about the different Emirates. |
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younggeorge
Joined: 15 Apr 2005 Posts: 350 Location: UAE
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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I only have personal experience of Dubai, where I'd say:
There has always been a good choice of places to live, villas included and quiet/busy areas to choose from, but it remains to be seen whether this will continue, given the exponential rent increases in the past year.
There's an incredible amount of entertainment and night-life, but somewhat pricey - drinks in bars, for example, are at least 25% more expensive than in Abu Dhabi.
The shopping is amazing - I doubt if there's anything you can't buy here and prices, on the whole, are a shade lower than most places I've lived.
On the other hand, the idyll may be timing out:-
The traffic has become ridiculous in the past year - the centres of Deira and Bur Dubai are almost completely grid-locked in the evenings. The Emirates Road is as good for by-passing Dubai as the M25 is for by-passing London. (For non-Brits, that means "not at all" - it's a car park at peak hours).
Rents, as mentioned above, are rising at an unbelievable rate and I'm not sure the allowances at HCT and ZU, never mind private employers, can keep pace.
And there are rumblings in certain quarters that the nationals are becloming less enamoured of the expatriate takeover. Virtually all new developments are aimed at expats and not everyone is happy to see pink-skinned women in bikinis and bare-chested men in shorts acting as if all of Jumeirah is their beach party. |
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younggeorge
Joined: 15 Apr 2005 Posts: 350 Location: UAE
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 11:53 am Post subject: |
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younggeorge wrote: |
And there are rumblings in certain quarters that the nationals are becloming less enamoured of the expatriate takeover. Virtually all new developments are aimed at expats and not everyone is happy to see pink-skinned women in bikinis and bare-chested men in shorts acting as if all of Jumeirah is their beach party. |
Example from today's newspaper:
http://www.7days.ae/content/view/1307/6/ |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for that article. It took me back to the days of reading the essays of my Emirati female students 10-12 years ago - when they were saying exactly the same thing!! I particularly remember a few students who got so upset that they complained to administration because I pointed out that in the international population statistics, expatriates were counted. Anyone who does not have the passport should not be counted!!
I have to say that I agree with most of it. I too was offended by scantily dressed expats or tourists, but I don't see them winning their point. Dubai's economy is based not on oil, but on business and tourism. Thus, all are stuck in this cultural quandry.
And as a sidenote, that also brought back memories of student essays because of its repetitious nature. Not that there were any glaring grammar mistakes, but that was certainly not English rhetoric. I could just hear myself saying to the writer, edit edit edit!! I want to see a draft tomorrow that has 1/3 of the length.
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SheikItUp
Joined: 07 Jan 2005 Posts: 14
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 4:51 am Post subject: housing |
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Just wondering...from your posts, it seems that getting a villa is "not good"...? Are apartments newer or better somehow? Thanks! |
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younggeorge
Joined: 15 Apr 2005 Posts: 350 Location: UAE
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 5:07 am Post subject: Re: housing |
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SheikItUp wrote: |
Just wondering...from your posts, it seems that getting a villa is "not good"...? Are apartments newer or better somehow? Thanks! |
It's not so much that villas are "not good" - I've got a very nice one, thank you! - but the rents are getting silly. By all means look around but, depending who you work for, don't count on finding one within your budget.
Another point to remember is that apartments often have central A/C included in the rents but this would be very unusual in a villa: the cost of running the AC for most of the year will at least triple your electricity bill. |
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shebab
Joined: 17 Sep 2003 Posts: 168
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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The shopping is amazing - I doubt if there's anything you can't buy here and prices, on the whole, are a shade lower than most places I've lived.
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Dubai's reputation as a "Shopping Paradise" is sorely overrated-unless you happen to be living in the darkest depths of the Sahara....I gave a list of things that can't be found in Dubai about a year ago-here they are again.
1) Lonely Planet guide to Prague
2) Pure Vanilla Extract
3) Gourmet flours (rye, spelt, oat, etc.)
4) Bookstores with real books and not bicycles and children's toys
5) Computer stores with salespeople who know what they're selling-that actually sell accessories you can use! (a "clerk" in Dubai once tried to sell me a flash USB unit when what I wanted was extra RAM for my laptop)
6) Music stores with a real selection of genres (ie: jazz, zydeco and world music)
7) Bars that are not attached to hotels and filled with tacky, manufactured Filipino entertainment
8- Any kind of high-end kitchen appliance (ie. Kitchen Aid mixers)
9) A real return policy that allows you to at least exchange an item 5 minutes after you stare at it (instead of having to argue with the "clerk" for an hour trying to justify your reason to return it)
10) Apple computers and laptops
As for prices, I find things are much cheaper to buy in the States- and easier to bring back for full cash refund if there is a problem-even a year later when you return on your summer break!
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younggeorge
Joined: 15 Apr 2005 Posts: 350 Location: UAE
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 4:09 am Post subject: |
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shebab wrote: |
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The shopping is amazing - I doubt if there's anything you can't buy here and prices, on the whole, are a shade lower than most places I've lived.
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Dubai's reputation as a "Shopping Paradise" is sorely overrated-unless you happen to be living in the darkest depths of the Sahara....I gave a list of things that can't be found in Dubai about a year ago-here they are again.
1) Lonely Planet guide to Prague
2) Pure Vanilla Extract
3) Gourmet flours (rye, spelt, oat, etc.)
4) Bookstores with real books and not bicycles and children's toys
5) Computer stores with salespeople who know what they're selling-that actually sell accessories you can use! (a "clerk" in Dubai once tried to sell me a flash USB unit when what I wanted was extra RAM for my laptop)
6) Music stores with a real selection of genres (ie: jazz, zydeco and world music)
7) Bars that are not attached to hotels and filled with tacky, manufactured Filipino entertainment
8- Any kind of high-end kitchen appliance (ie. Kitchen Aid mixers)
9) A real return policy that allows you to at least exchange an item 5 minutes after you stare at it (instead of having to argue with the "clerk" for an hour trying to justify your reason to return it)
10) Apple computers and laptops
As for prices, I find things are much cheaper to buy in the States- and easier to bring back for full cash refund if there is a problem-even a year later when you return on your summer break! |
Overrated maybe, and I try to avoid shops as much as the missus will allow me to, but this list must have been prepared on a bad day:
Items 1 & 4: try Magrudy's - Jumeirah or City Centre - maybe the Prague guide was out of stock when you looked, but they have a huge number and no bikes.
Item 2 and 3 (at least Spelt, not sure about oats and rye but I wouldn't know where to buy those in England either) are normally available at all branches of Spinneys. There's a new "Organic cafe" somewhere in Jumeirah that probably has those flours as well - it's a shop, not just a cafe.
Item 5 I'll grant you - computer shop assistants that know nothjing about computers and taxi drivers that need directions from the passenger are two of the genuine "I could strangle him!" prompts that you find regularly.
Music stores: Virgin megastore (City Centre) has just about the same selection as they do in Birmingham (Brum, not Alabama), which is the only other branch I know. Finding zydeco and a decent world music selection is just as hard in UK as it is here.
Item 7: a legitimate complaint, but that's the way things work here. Does "bejabbers and begorrah Irish" grab you any more than tacky Filipino - we can provide that!
Item 8: no idea what you're talking about, so you're probably right.
Returns: never had any problems: my wife normally returns things at least once before she's satisfied.
Apple computers: well, they must be available somewhere - we've got a couple of labs full of them at ZU and Comms students have Apple laptops.
Yallah, Shebab - try getting out of the other side of the bed! |
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well-travelled
Joined: 19 Mar 2003 Posts: 97
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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Dubai has, for a while now, been transforming itself into an unreal emirate - hence Dubailand; the World: the various Palms; the tallest building in the world etc..etc..
I guess for some this is visionary, but for others, myself included, it's tasteless, tacky and environmentally ill-thought through.
Still, whether you think this development is good or bad, I think that most people would say that it's happening far too fast.
Unless you're an Emirati property owner, of course, who, for some reason, has been able to increase the rent on his villa/flat by anything up to 100% in recent weeks. And this in a place where general building standards and, more importantly, maintenance are - to put it politely - not of the highest quality.
Combine this with the poor exchange rates at present, the increasing pollution, the ever-increasing traffic congestion etc., then Dubai, it seems to me, is no longer the promised land - especially for teachers who have always been at the bottom of the (white) expatriate pile.
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