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guty
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 Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 5:46 pm Post subject: Travel refunds by ADU |
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OK, I have seen the threads about this place, but can people just answer a yes/no question here please?
If you travelled to an interview with ADU, and they promised expenses to be paid, did they pay?
If so, how? |
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kazimdaldal
Joined: 05 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 5:45 pm Post subject: Travel reimbursment |
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| I had an interview with the provost (Dr.Cargol) in USA and he paid me in cash (actually with his personal check) and I had no problem. By the way, I talked to another guy working in ADU for 8 months over the phone and it seems like people here are overstating the situation there. Of course, I am not sure about the real situation but I suggest you should check from different resources and I am also still checking. One more thing: I am not ESL teacher. I applied for a different position there. |
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guty
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| Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 4:29 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the info, nice to deal just with facts for a change. |
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veiledsentiments
Joined: 20 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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Looked to me like one 'fact' and one second hand opinion... both from a total stranger. Buyer beware with a place with a reputation like ADU.
VS |
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lionbrian
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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Location: Micronesia
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| Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 2:45 pm Post subject: VEIL IS RIGHT! |
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Dear potential employees! 
Veil is the person to trust! That's it! 
Oh! By the way, she meant by "buyer" : A customer who is interested in buying this product. 
Thanks Veil for your warning!  |
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whatgoesaround
Joined: 21 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 5:01 pm Post subject: Re: Travel reimbursment |
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| kazimdaldal wrote: |
| I had an interview with the provost (Dr.Cargol) in USA and he paid me in cash (actually with his personal check) and I had no problem. |
Is that how most schools of your acquaintance reimburse for expenses? By personal check?
| kazimdaldal wrote: |
By the way, I talked to another guy working in ADU for 8 months over the phone and it seems like people here are overstating the situation there. |
What is it about that guy that makes what he says more credible than what other people have told you?
I'm asking because some of those other people want to know.
One of them, anyway. |
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guty
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| Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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Valid points all.
VS, Yes, you are right, but I was more interested in a yes or a no than the opinion, and I got it.
What I meant was "a fact" not "facts". I wanted a simple yes or no answer and got one.
LionB, isnt that taking correction a little too far?
wga, I believe he got the travel expenses, why shouldnt I? The rest carries no more or less weight than any other posting, but the post was a specific question which nobody has yet answered "no" to.
vs, we are all total strangers  |
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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 Well, a few of us actually do know each other - having crossed paths over the years. And then there are those of us who may not know that we actually know each other. And then there are others who think they know, but don't really...
Ahhh.. aren't these discussion boards fun!!
VS
(and to think we used to board the airplane to a new job in a country where we didn't speak the language or know a soul... sometimes I wonder if that was better in some ways.) |
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Gnocchiman
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| Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 4:21 am Post subject: |
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| and to think we used to board the airplane to a new job in a country where we didn't speak the language or know a soul... sometimes I wonder if that was better in some ways |
You know VS, I think it was. Information is a good thing, but too much of it can really take the adventure out of this lifestyle. When I look back on my efl career, some of the best experiences I had were in the worst or most stressful situations-it certainly makes for great story telling later! Those bad situations, when they happened, only lasted a year or two (or even less-you know, those jobs that we never get to put on our resumes because we got out of the "experience" a little earlier than the contract stated) and certainly makes me appreciate the "good" jobs and countries when they come along (which, thank God, they have often). If the internet had been around when I started (yes kids, there was a time...), I think I would have missed out on some pretty exciting experiences (getting on that plane with a few belongings knowing absolutely nothing about what you're getting yourself into...ah, those were the days).
Sorry, this has nothing to do with ADU. It's just something for those of you who are curious about making a career in efl to think about--none of it is permanent--listen to what people have to say if you want, but don't be afraid to say "What the hell" and jump in (unless, of course, you're thinking of moving to Kuwait-that place sucks  )--don't be overly discouraged by negative comments on the forum or journal--have fun!
(you can tell I've had way too much coffee this morning ) |
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younggeorge
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| Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 4:43 am Post subject: |
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| Gnocchiman wrote: |
VS wrote:
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| and to think we used to board the airplane to a new job in a country where we didn't speak the language or know a soul... sometimes I wonder if that was better in some ways |
You know VS, I think it was. |
Me, too! If there had been a board like this before I went to Libya, I probably wouldn't have gone there and in many ways that would have been a good thing, but I wouldn't have had the experience of working in the former governor's palace or all that time I spent with my family when our few classes were cancelled for political meetings.
A board like this would probably have told me how small and isolated Kuala Belait was going to be, but there's no way it could have told me about the great friendships I would form there or how wonderful it would be to have papayas, mangoes and coconuts growing in my own garden.
So much of the experience is individual and unique. By all means listen to the advice of others - even to their gripes, groans and bitterness - and this will help you to weigh up the risks, but basically you're only going to find out by giving it a try. |
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Gordon
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| Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 6:53 am Post subject: |
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| younggeorge wrote: |
| Gnocchiman wrote: |
VS wrote:
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| and to think we used to board the airplane to a new job in a country where we didn't speak the language or know a soul... sometimes I wonder if that was better in some ways |
You know VS, I think it was. |
Me, too! If there had been a board like this before I went to Libya, I probably wouldn't have gone there and in many ways that would have been a good thing, but I wouldn't have had the experience of working in the former governor's palace or all that time I spent with my family when our few classes were cancelled for political meetings.
A board like this would probably have told me how small and isolated Kuala Belait was going to be, but there's no way it could have told me about the great friendships I would form there or how wonderful it would be to have papayas, mangoes and coconuts growing in my own garden.
So much of the experience is individual and unique. By all means listen to the advice of others - even to their gripes, groans and bitterness - and this will help you to weigh up the risks, but basically you're only going to find out by giving it a try. |
Me three, just to join the dogpile. I probably would never have gone to Korea many moons ago, before the age of internet. I never knew anything was negative about Korea, all I knew was the show MASH and that there had been a war there. I had a bad situation but learned a lifetime of lessons and learned a lot about teaching with nothing. |
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veiledsentiments
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So, I guess that it is safe to say that all of us are now old. Here we are babbling on about how much better it was in the 'old days.' And, again we are right.
But, is it my imagination or are the bad jobs worse these days? Of course my knowledge is based only on the Middle East, but when I entered this field, there were no ADU or MLI type stories out there. Your biggest 'danger' was a bad supervisor - no one was taking potshots at Westerners.
Perhaps we just had lowered expectations. It seems from many of the questions asked and attitudes shown by many of the newbies, suggest that people have lots of unrealistic requirements. I guess most of us were just looking for an interesting experience and sometimes things got way too 'interesting.'
I agree that it probably was better in the past, but I don't think it is yet time to tell Dave to shut this place down.
VS |
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well-travelled
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Can't disagree with most of the above comments - it's great (or was!!) to be footloose and fancy free in the world of TEFL. And if you're single & have no responsibilites, then - fair enough - nothing gained and nothng lost.
The kick is though, if you are older and have wife, kids etc (or husband, kids etc.) then it's a different ball game. It's not just you who can get fucked up out there.......
That's where this forum is, I think still important (although there have been a number of censorship issues, particularly with regard to HCT Sharjah which have kept me away for a while).
If you're young & have no responsibilites, then by all means try ADU. Could be a foot in the door in the Gulf. However, if you have family with you, then I wouldn't touch it with the poverbial barge pole.
I must admit, I'm not being completely honest here. Based on the postings, I really believe that ADU is the pits - and I'd agree with VS's implication that some positive postings might not always, shall we say, be quite what they seem.
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kazimdaldal
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| Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 3:20 pm Post subject: About my message |
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I find the "other person" credible because he speaks the same language I speak so we are from same country. Everything is possible in life but I stll prefer to trust that person more than some other nicks here. There was no reason for him to tell me a lie. He was also honest enough to confirm some information that I read here. I am not saying that this place is worth to go or not. All I am saying that is the information I have. I got my money. However, I even decided not to go for now. Please do not start to blame people who you do not know well.
Thanks |
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sprightly
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| I find the "other person" credible because he speaks the same language I speak so we are from same country. |
ah, the stories abounding from this mistake!!
i know several people who took jobs because someone from their country vouched for it--only to learn once they landed in the crappy job that their compatriot was getting a cash bonus.
i like to have two credible people, who don't know each other. |
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