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hallamo
Joined: 26 May 2005 Posts: 4 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:49 am Post subject: A fair deal?? |
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Hi everyone,
I'm totally new to ESL teaching, and totally new to China as well, so I'm looking for as much help and advice as I can get before I head off to Beijing this summer!
I've been offered a position as an English Teacher (I declined the Director position, as it felt like too much responsibility and I'm just a beginner!!!). It's with a University in the Chaoyang district of Beijing. They've offered me help with getting my Z-visa and have sent a contract for me to look over. I've been going through it and have a few questions:
1) Is 5500 RMB per month a fair salary for 20 hours teaching a 5 hours prep/office time. They've offered me 50 RMB per extra hour that I do - eg helping prepare students for spoken exams etc.
2) They've mentioned in the contract that I shouldn't render services elsewhere without prior permission - does this mean Iwon't be able to supplement my salary by giving extra private lessons outwith the Uni?
3) There's mention of a breach penalty of 1500 - 2000USD - which appears to be 2-way, but also seems a little scary!
4) I do get basic medical - but only for emergency treatment, so I'll need my own comprehensive insurance I think
5) I get paid holidays
6) I get furnished accommodation, but am responsible for paying for my own internet access, gas, water and telephoen expenses
7) after a year I get 5000RMB towards my airfare home
8 - The school will take responsibility for getting my residence permit, foreigners expert, and will pay all fees. I am responsible for getting my Z visa, before coming to china and paying all fees.
Does this all seem fair? Should I accept this post? Are there any questions I should ask them? Can I negotiate to get them to pay my utilities and to allow me private teaching work??
Please help!!!
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Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 1797
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:55 am Post subject: tefl dodger |
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You are new but they offered you the director job?
The salary is in Chinese money but the penalty in USD?
Sounds dodgy doesn`t it or you wouldn`t be asking for advice here? |
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hallamo
Joined: 26 May 2005 Posts: 4 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:08 am Post subject: |
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The penalty is in USD - but payable in the RMB equivalent.
To be honest, after doing a bit of research, I was quite impressed with the fact they'd sent a contract and offered help getting the paperwork.
My concern was more that the deal being offered was fair and not a rip-off. Does this sound like a standard offer from a Chinese School/University or not? |
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WYSIWYG

Joined: 17 Oct 2004 Posts: 149 Location: It's good to be in my own little world. We all know each other here!
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:39 am Post subject: Re: A fair deal?? |
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hallamo wrote: |
3) There's mention of a breach penalty of 1500 - 2000USD - which appears to be 2-way, but also seems a little scary!
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2-way? Meaning if they fire you, you're required to pay them 2k USD? I wouldn't sign that. |
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hallamo
Joined: 26 May 2005 Posts: 4 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:41 am Post subject: |
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I'm probably not explaining very well! Here's the text, does it seem ok?
Breach Penalty
The party who fails to fulfill the contract obligations according to the terms stipulated should pay a breach penalty of USD 1500 to USD 2000(or the equivalent in RMB) except in the following conditions and others that may be mutually agreed upon. If Party B asks to cancel the contract due to events beyond his/her control, Party B must submit a valid certification or reasonable explanation such as a state of civil unrest or war, and obtain Party A�s consent to cancel the contract. Party A shall pay for Party B�s return expenses. If Party B cancels the contract without a valid reason, he/she shall pay his/her own return expenses and pay a breach penalty to Party A.
If Party A asks to cancel the contract due to events beyond its control, Party A must obtain Party B�s consent to cancel the contract. Party A shall pay Party B�s return expenses and one month�s severance pay. If Party A cancels the contract without valid reason, Party A should pay Party B�s return expenses and breach penalty to Party B. The appendix of this contract is a part of the contract and has equal effect. This contract takes effect on the date signed by both parties and will automatically terminate when the contract expires. If either of the parties asks for a new contract, a request should be forwarded to the other party 90 days prior to the expiration of the contract, and sign the new contract with mutual consent. |
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WYSIWYG

Joined: 17 Oct 2004 Posts: 149 Location: It's good to be in my own little world. We all know each other here!
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:48 am Post subject: |
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The contract seems pretty standard to me. Utilities/Internet costs aren't much.
Things I asked for:
1. My OWN, unshared apartment. I guess I'm too old to deal with roomies.
2. An example of the weekly schedule. 20 hours can quickly become like 50 if the class times are spread throughout the day (7am, 12pm, 6pm classes) |
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Doglover
Joined: 14 Dec 2004 Posts: 305 Location: Kansai
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Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 4:24 am Post subject: Re: A fair deal?? |
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hallamo wrote: |
H2) They've mentioned in the contract that I shouldn't render services elsewhere without prior permission - does this mean Iwon't be able to supplement my salary by giving extra private lessons outwith the Uni?
3) There's mention of a breach penalty of 1500 - 2000USD - which appears to be 2-way, but also seems a little scary!
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I believe the monthly salaries in Chinese currency for an entry level position in China are the equivalent of US$500 a month which means they would fine you out of disposable income (money left over after expenses and rent are taken out) equal to 3 months salary. Assuming DI is 30% of your income it would take you 9 months to come up with $1500 in China out of your savings, meaning essentially you work for free for a year.
Funny how wages are in Chinese currency but fines are in dollars. I guess they think you dont know how much that will be.
Good luck in trying to get your employer to pay you any money in the event of a contract dispute. Never happens in Japan unless you take them to court and sue them for the money.
I dont work in China but in Japan employers will ban private teaching to prevent you poaching students from your employer and teaching them at home. i dont know what the custom for this is in China though. |
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