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[marky4]

Hi.
Looking for first teaching in SH, no experience, plus no degree, just TEFL+GAM. willing to start at the bottom.(of course) I am 46 yrs. Decided late to begin teaching. Anyone with suggestions, advice, most welcomed. Not afraid of hard work any help greatly appreciated. Mark

[Old Dog]

Do you have any career of substance behind you during those 46 years? If you do, then maybe a few employers would take a look at you - though I would expect Shanghai to be somewhat discriminating - and, certainly you would start at the bottom. The bottom is not, however, a good place to be at 46 - anywhere.

If, however, you cannot indicate in a job application that you have had a career of substance and can only demonstrate "drifting", many employers here might think of your China teaching venture as an act of desperation.

Our employment policy here would mean that, even with a degree and some EFL training, you would not be considered at your age unless you could show a career of substance and compelling reasons that caused you to bid farewell to it in favour of China and "late entry" teaching. Those mid-years are the "drifting" years that bring all sorts to China out of desperation.

So, if you are the genuine article, do be careful to market yourself carefully and ensure that you'll easily pass close scrutiny via your referees and other checks.

[wonderd]

I agree mostly with what Old Dog had to say. What is your background? Have you at least had training experience?

I also agree that you will probably start at the bottom.

Most companies care very much about their image, so if you don't have the background, you probably won't find too much.

That being said, I have seen exceptions in Shanghai. I have seen people older than you with no experience working here.

The only plus you have is size. Shanghai is so massive there are so many companies here, you have a lot more of a chance.

Good luck to you.

[Super Mario]

No degree would be a turn-off for serious employers.
The private language mills might look at you, but they are terrible employers, only interested in profits.
Don't let anyone tell you you're "too old", however. Too old for what, exactly?

[tw]

Many schools look at TEFL certificate as a substitute for degree.