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ianprz
Joined: 12 Jun 2005 Posts: 3
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:38 pm Post subject: Teaching in Antalya |
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Are there any teachers currently working in Antalya who can give me some information about teaching there? - schools to avoid, etc.
I have a bachelor's degree in English, but no teaching certificate. Last year, I spent several months teaching at Wall Street in Bakirkoy and this wasn't a problem. Can I expect the same situation in Antalya? |
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ghost
Joined: 30 Jan 2003 Posts: 1693 Location: Saudi Arabia
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 6:45 pm Post subject: reply |
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For a city the size of Antalya (around 500.000), there are not very many language schools, and many of them do not pay much.
Ghost recommends 'Amerika Kultur Dernegi' as the best of the bunch of schools in Antalya. The owner (Halil Cil) is a decent guy who will give most native speakers a chance, and fair pay.
Quite honestly, you would do better to look for work in Izmir, because there are far more schools there, and they pay generally higher as well.
There are three 'Kolej' in Antalya - 'Antalya Kolej,' 'Akdeniz Kolej' and 'Akev Kolej' - but you would need real teacher credentials to teach there, under normal circumstances (B.Ed., or PGCE). The best for pay and conditions is 'Antalya Kolej' - but be forewarned that if selected for the Primary Section, you need extremely strong class management skills to survive at those places.
A new TED Kolej is slated to open in Antalya near the airport in September, 2005. Initially only up to grade 7 will be offered. Once again, they need 'real teachers' with B.Ed. credentials to fill posts. But the hiring will take place through the central TED office in Ankara, where all decisions are made.
Ghost taught at one of the Kolej, and came away somewhat battered and bruised by the experience. A reality check was accomplished, at least. |
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31
Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 1797
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 6:52 pm Post subject: Re: Teaching in Antalya |
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ianprz wrote: |
I have a bachelor's degree in English, but no teaching certificate. Last year, I spent several months teaching at Wall Street in Bakirkoy and this wasn't a problem. |
Of course it wasn`t a problem. Wall Street is a bog standard tefl mill that must have been honoured to have someone like you with a real degree in English. You must have been as rare as rocking horse s h i t at Wall Street. Even one of our DOSes hasn`t got a degree. |
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TeachEnglish
Joined: 09 Feb 2005 Posts: 239
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:03 pm Post subject: Teaching in Antalya |
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Good luck in Antalya.. I hope your experience is positive.. I know nothing about teaching in Antalya but would like to know more about your experience at Wall Street. How were the conditions there such as pay, other teacher relations, students, hours, workload..etc.. Why are you leaving? Thanks in advance for the information. |
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yaramaz

Joined: 05 Mar 2003 Posts: 2384 Location: Not where I was before
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 6:16 am Post subject: |
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You must have been as rare as rocking horse s h i t at Wall Street. Even one of our DOSes hasn`t got a degree |
Hey Otuz Bir, I thought you worked at ET! Are you moving up in the world?  |
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dmb

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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 6:22 am Post subject: |
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now now Yaramaz, don't be .... eh ... yaramaz |
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yaramaz

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Aw, but dmb, what else can I be? I know no other way!  |
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dmb

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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:04 am Post subject: |
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ok then devam et. |
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ianprz
Joined: 12 Jun 2005 Posts: 3
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 2:25 pm Post subject: thanks |
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Thanks for the info ghost. It's much appreciated. |
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31
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Otuz Bir, I thought you worked at ET! Are you moving up in the world?  |
As a tefl teacher working in a tefl mill for hourly pay there isn`t any further down. But no I don`t think I am DOS material. |
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dmb

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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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But no I don`t think I am DOS material |
Why? you clearly have the knowledge and from your posts it seems as if you don't like teaching. Get out the classroom and behind a desk. |
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31
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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dmb wrote: |
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But no I don`t think I am DOS material |
Why? you clearly have the knowledge and from your posts it seems as if you don't like teaching. Get out the classroom and behind a desk. |
No, it is not teaching that I don`t like. In fact the teaching is the easy part it is everything else that goes with it.
I remember working with someone who was a DOS at Interlang for a year and she reckoned that when she worked it all out she was earning two pounds twenty an hour. This was when she factored in covering classes for teachers who had left/ill/too drunk to come in etc. as well as placement testing etc.
You dmb have a lot of experience doesn`t being a DOS get you down. How do you deal with the teachers, the owner, the students? Aren`t you always in the middle? The pay is usually less than the teachers who get hourly pay whereas you are on a fixed salary and have to fill in. Don`t you have to discipline twenty something p i s s heads who will tell you where to go and walk round the corner? |
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dmb

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I no longer DOS in langauge schools. I have been out of DOSing for a few years. I'm not saying I will never do it again. My interests are in teacher training, recruitment and teaching. I always like being in the classroom. |
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31
Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 1797
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry dmb but that wasn`t much of a reply.
I thought you were a dos at language world but realise it is not a language school in the sense of ET. I also realise that you are into teacher training and enjoy more ''specialist'' teaching for want of a better word. I assume being dos at your place is easier stress wise than at et.
Always like being in the classroom. Of course it all depends. Teaching prep year in year out at a crap private uni and no doubt you would change your mind. Working at a lise year in year out? Teaching that private student who is nice but will always be elementary? Teaching an upper middle class kid who lives in Suadiye-the money is good and it fits into your schedule and his mum comes in with coffee and cake/kurabiye half way through but you have to do his homework and read his graded reader and explain it to him because he can`t be bothered. Year in year out you change. |
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dmb

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You are correct 31. it isn't really a dersane. It is more of a "recruitment centre" I send teachers off to companies. I never see the owner, well rarely, and I never see the teachers. Any reports, exams, registers is all done all line. I pop into the office(there is no school) for a few hours a week. all my other work is hands on in the classroom(company) or from home. it's a good gig but sometimes lonely. I miss the gossip of the teachers' room. Although I guess this forum is like a teachers' room |
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