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moot point
Joined: 22 Feb 2005 Posts: 441
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 3:23 pm Post subject: Shangri-la...where is it? (non-teaching) |
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I've recently been reading James Hilton's "Lost in Paradise". This apparently is the first book to ever mention the word "Shangri-la".
For those who've read the book you'll be better informed about the general geographics of Hilton's ideas of where this lost paradise exists (written in 1930), although debate still continues of its location. PM me if you'd like to know my interpretations of this novel.
But by through this posting I want to know what modern travellers consider their Shangri-la. |
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Echidna
Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Posts: 13
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 11:25 am Post subject: |
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Yes, I too loved Hilton's book. I think people have been asking after and searching for Shangri-La forever; really, isn't that why most of us bumble around the world?
It seems likely that Hilton envisioned his mythical valley somewhere in the the mountains of SW China or her neighbors; Tibet, Nepal, or Bhutan.
Perhaps in northern Asia, in Mongolia or Tuva? Maybe farther west, in the rugged mountains of Kyrgystan?
One of the odder places that I've recently become aware of is the territory of Kalmykia; a chunk of Asia wedged into western Russia. Maybe?
Places like Tuva and Kalmykia are Shangri-La-esque to me, simply because they seem so other-worldly. I know if I actually went to these places, they would lose their status, so in a bizarre way, it's better just to imagine them.
Do you happen to remember a colorful book published about 15 years ago, (the title eludes me, but I THINK it was simply two names, *** and ***) that was a series of postcards, etc. from a mythical country? There was a story to it, a romance I think. It was quite a popular book, if memory serves, exactly because so many of us want to believe there is such a place in the world.
Where's your Shangri-La? |
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Rice Paddy Daddy
Joined: 11 Jul 2004 Posts: 425 Location: Japan
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 12:57 am Post subject: |
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Doesn't exist. |
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liehtzu

Joined: 26 Feb 2003 Posts: 35 Location: North Thailand
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2005 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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The Chinese government has officially renamed Zhongdian in northwest Yunnan Province "Shangri-la" as they have proven (read: decreed without a shred of fact) that Hilton based his mythical city on Zhongdian. Well, if you've ever been to Zhongdian, Shangri-la it ain't. But there are some interesting places in the vicinity....
Good luck in yr quest.
Cheers. |
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stillnosheep

Joined: 01 Mar 2004 Posts: 2068 Location: eslcafe
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 10:36 am Post subject: |
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I am reliably informed that it is to be seen by the dashboard light (but for a more exact answer you may have to let me sleep on it..) |
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Dolma
Joined: 13 Jun 2005 Posts: 49 Location: Somewhere between samsara and nirvana
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 3:24 pm Post subject: Shangri La? |
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A terrific Nepali/Tibetan restaurant in Jackson Heights, Queens, NYC. Just opened a few weeks ago. Best dal bhaat in town!!!  |
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clyde
Joined: 13 Jul 2005 Posts: 52
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:56 am Post subject: |
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Shangri-la is Lijiang city in Yunnan province |
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stillnosheep

Joined: 01 Mar 2004 Posts: 2068 Location: eslcafe
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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.... but don't tell anyone! |
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parrothead

Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 342 Location: Japan
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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Omaha, Nebraska. |
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schwa
Joined: 12 Oct 2003 Posts: 164 Location: yap
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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 11:40 am Post subject: |
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Hilton's book mesmerized me when I first encountered it as a young teenager. It set me to yearning after the peaceable wisdom of those lamas, which may well have altered my life course ever since.
Not as any sort of guidebook -- the novel itself is quite conventional & sentimental -- but as a spark that induced me to explore a wide range of less-trodden paths. I've learned something from each.
Now I'm an offbeat old guy & certainly far from perfected, but I think I'm close to recognizing Shangri La wherever I happen to be.
(The novel's titlle, by the way, is Lost Horizon.) |
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Yu
Joined: 06 Mar 2003 Posts: 1219 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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Went to the "Shangri-la" of China.... was so unimpressed.... but then again the friends I travelled with did not want to take the 6 hour bus ride to the snow mountains. I saw it from the plane (I think) and was impressed...
Lijiang is nice. I also like Yangshou. |
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isanity
Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Posts: 179
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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Lijiang was Shangri-la. It's now a theme park for Chinese tour groups. Ladakh's nice. |
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mick_luna

Joined: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 115 Location: toronto
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 12:37 am Post subject: |
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the other book mentioned was "Griffin and Sabine" by Nick Bantok. There was a series of them. Nicely illustrated.
So why Lijiang and Ladakh? what make them Shangri-la-like? Has anyone seen the Frank Capra movie Lost Horizon? i haven't, but i loved the book. i think its what a lot of travellers and expats would like to find. of course, if we did, we probably wouldn't be accepted there, we'd be deported or exploited by local mafia ;0) |
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isanity
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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mick_luna wrote: |
So why Lijiang and Ladakh? what make them Shangri-la-like? |
Two reasons. The people- Tibetans, which is always good. And the light- something to do with the altitude. Lijiang had better architecture before it was prettied up, while Ladakh's mainly stark, desert mountains with patches of green. |
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